Where would they have even seen those warning signs? Again, most people have 1 (one) source of news, be it CNN, Fox, ABC, MSNBC, or whatever, and as far as I know, none of them have reported on the anti-semitism until very recently

Also

Being in a bubble is fine as long as you recognize it and try to pop it and expand the territory to which your mind travels

That's not the claim people are making

the problem is people knowing they're in a bubble and refusing to do anything but constrict it more

That's the claim I'M making ABOUT the people in the March

That they live in a bubble

Most people will not know about the anti-semitism at all

it's less a bubble and more a bias confirming echo chamber they constructed via social media filters

It won't even cross their mind

OK you're activating rhetoric mode again @Misomania

he is right though. and that is not necessarily on the people in the march and more a problem with social media in general

What is the meaningful difference between "bubble" and that buzzword salad he just posted

They both mean the same thing

well, not quite

bubble does not necessarily imply intent, while constructed echo chamber does

bubble: you hear nothing else. buzzword salad: you hear only things that confirm what you already believe. it's a nuanced difference

bubbles expand and form naturally due to a lack of competition. Talking in a bowling alley is a social bubble. What the social platforms did was exclude and filter the talk while bringing together like minded indivuals that then began to self confirm among each other in a way that would magnify the purpose of the social circle

OK well here's where we have an impass

whereas talking about bowling in a bowling alley is a natural social bubble, bringing together people that for a sole purpose then filtering it out to an extreme degree via block bots and friend circles (recommended via algarythyms) is not natural

echo chambers are intentional, just not by the users. social media pushes you content that you are likely to engage with - that leads to the echo chamber

and yes, facebook/twitter/etc made it all worse intentionally

@I AM ERROR not sure of that. I kind of think they did so intentionally (the users) but that the sheer scope and scale of the platforms they have and the power of the tools to form those echochambers has grown far beyond what the users could fathom

they knew they were making an echo chamber, just not how pure it would become

@Misomania mabye it'll grow to the point of either too big it'll fail. or the tiger will eat the riders?

@Misomania ie what they created will comeback and consume them

i don't think the users intentionally make their echo chambers (well... some most definitely are) they just don't engage people they don't like (and block others) which leads to it... but most don't make a conscious decision to form their own echo chamber

they join for the purpose of seeking like minded people though

which is natural, but that means we naturally seek to form echochambers

None of us can know with any certainty whether or not the echo chambers people build are deliberate or just out of convenience. We can speculate as to whether or not most people explicity choose to only hear voices of what they like and remove voices that they don't, or if it's just a matter of proximity that they only hear voices that they like.

Did you deliberatly choose your friends based on their politics? Most people don't. People just naturally associate with people they have common interests with, and that LEADS to an echo chamber. Most aren't intentionally constructed. Social media just exacerbates the problem that naturally occurs.

Anyway I've gtg but it was nice having this discussion @Misomania @I AM ERROR @yearspastmatter

@Misomania thus they drift by isolation and then see their masters or creaters as facists it be hilarious if they did that btw haha

same, have a good one dude

@Orteid same, going to take the dogs out though so I'm going to be busy...... they love playing in this snow

got like a foot or 2 of snow and they love playing in it

echo chambers are a side-effect of easy access to social circles

https://twitter.com/ItsReactor/status/1085978521225302016 Does anyone see the hypocrisy here in the screencap our Reactor shows?

what? friends of youtube getting benefits?

Totally not fair

welcome to reality

friends get benefits