Message from @Heteronymus Bosch

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2019-01-23 15:39:08 UTC  

I just think that unions are in principle a good thing.

2019-01-23 15:39:10 UTC  

My union signed away the benefits of new employees for benefits for old employees

2019-01-23 15:39:21 UTC  

They are why you have weekends.

2019-01-23 15:39:27 UTC  

I think Unions have been quickly superceded by social media

2019-01-23 15:39:36 UTC  

I don't have weekends though

2019-01-23 15:39:48 UTC  

Social media can organise people a lot quicker than Unions

2019-01-23 15:39:55 UTC  

You have time and a half and doublt time, then. Or you did...

2019-01-23 15:39:58 UTC  

modern protests are social media based

2019-01-23 15:39:59 UTC  

look at france, unions have been shown to be complicit with the state and powerful interest groups as soon as a roots movement sprung up

2019-01-23 15:40:03 UTC  

Until the unions got killed off.

2019-01-23 15:40:13 UTC  

Balance is key.

2019-01-23 15:40:17 UTC  

And checks and balances.

2019-01-23 15:41:16 UTC  

What if I want to form a counter-union?

2019-01-23 15:41:21 UTC  

Good luck

2019-01-23 15:41:26 UTC  

That's an employers union.

2019-01-23 15:41:27 UTC  

A union that fights against the current union?

2019-01-23 15:41:30 UTC  

They exist.

2019-01-23 15:41:52 UTC  

No, like, a union of employees, but they argue for different things than the first union.

2019-01-23 15:42:08 UTC  

Here in the US even if you don't join a union you have to give them money

2019-01-23 15:42:09 UTC  

The link to the labour movement, and mandatory voting are the two reasons Australia is marginally better than the US and UK right now.

2019-01-23 15:42:36 UTC  

I think there are situations where there are multiple unions. Not sure.

2019-01-23 15:42:57 UTC  

But I do know I've been well represented by my unions in my life.

2019-01-23 15:43:21 UTC  

I also know that there are thugs and mafia running other unions.

2019-01-23 15:43:49 UTC  

Compulsory unionism should be illegal.

2019-01-23 15:44:01 UTC  

And I believe is in AUstralia.

2019-01-23 15:44:27 UTC  

rando question : do you think the current state of politics in the us will bring change in that there will be a third, fourth, fifht party instead of the big two ?

2019-01-23 15:44:54 UTC  

I believe the system would make that very difficult.

2019-01-23 15:45:05 UTC  

It is set up for two sides.

2019-01-23 15:45:24 UTC  

I think the fact that AOC and her following are so batshit insane might mean that they would eventually split off and form their own party

2019-01-23 15:45:31 UTC  

Other systems are set up for multi-party government.

2019-01-23 15:45:47 UTC  

The American is not.

2019-01-23 15:46:00 UTC  

Someone who understands better will be able to fill in why.

2019-01-23 15:46:23 UTC  

Even Australia's system trends to 2 parties

2019-01-23 15:46:37 UTC  

even if one is the coalition, but basically one party

2019-01-23 15:46:47 UTC  

Your only option is to take over one of the existing parties, as Trump (not a conservative/neo-con) did, and as AOC's wing is trying to do.

2019-01-23 15:47:51 UTC  

UKIP in the UK and to a lesser extent Pauline Hanson in AU had success in the 2 party system that saw some policy or electoral gains

2019-01-23 15:47:52 UTC  

a two party system in the country so adamant about preventing tyranny seems so ironic

2019-01-23 15:48:26 UTC  

the thing is it isn't a 2 party system inherently, but it trends to form 2 parties

2019-01-23 15:48:26 UTC  

This is why I said "might mean."

2019-01-23 15:48:58 UTC  

Like no one gives a fuck about the libertarians like gary johnson "what is aleppo"

2019-01-23 15:49:12 UTC  

and whoever ran in the U S for the green party