Message from @That Guy [ なに!?! ]

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2019-01-26 18:55:55 UTC  

Thats a concept

2019-01-26 18:55:59 UTC  

Not a real thing

2019-01-26 18:56:02 UTC  

The brain is complex maybe let’s keep it at that

2019-01-26 18:56:07 UTC  

We define data

2019-01-26 18:56:11 UTC  

but what is the consciousness then ?

2019-01-26 18:56:11 UTC  

Brain or mind?

2019-01-26 18:56:15 UTC  

But the data itself doesnt exist

2019-01-26 18:56:24 UTC  

@Montgomereeeee I think that our actions are driven by much older subconscious / unconscious subsystems of the brain and when those actions align with our conscious desires we experience an illusion of agency

2019-01-26 18:56:24 UTC  

BRAIN 🧟‍♀️

2019-01-26 18:56:33 UTC  

can you prove its body ? if so does that mean you're pretty much dying all the time

2019-01-26 18:56:36 UTC  

It's a deffinition we give to something to understand it

2019-01-26 18:56:37 UTC  

what do you think free will is?

2019-01-26 18:56:37 UTC  

and just copying yourself ?

2019-01-26 18:56:54 UTC  

you prolly don't have any cells you had when you were a kid

2019-01-26 18:56:56 UTC  

so basically, free will is the sense that we control our actions because we happened to do what we wanted at a given moment

2019-01-26 18:57:02 UTC  

ybasically all of them died

2019-01-26 18:57:07 UTC  

The brain is complex but not impenetrable.

2019-01-26 18:57:10 UTC  

Nope but since there is no proof that it's not and every other thing that derivates from the body is the body

2019-01-26 18:57:12 UTC  

that means you're not you that you were born, you're just a copy

2019-01-26 18:57:15 UTC  

but there are various mental disorders where this mechanism breaks horribly like schizophrenia

2019-01-26 18:57:17 UTC  

There is literally no (real) data on how our consciousness works.

2019-01-26 18:57:19 UTC  

Free will is volition

2019-01-26 18:57:31 UTC  

There is a mountain of data on how our brains work.

2019-01-26 18:57:34 UTC  

I.e Brain/mind debate

2019-01-26 18:57:38 UTC  

Well I agree that our choices are influenced but we should still hold ourselves accountable @ThreeOfOne

2019-01-26 18:57:45 UTC  

just cause there's no proof doesn't mean it's not true, it only means it hasnt been proven

2019-01-26 18:57:46 UTC  

I also agree

2019-01-26 18:57:49 UTC  

I was vague lol

2019-01-26 18:57:49 UTC  

Wait let me get to the pc i love this kind of phylosofical debate

2019-01-26 18:57:54 UTC  

how does one make a decision? well they use their judgement, which is based on their past.
so free will is both real and deterministic. we definitely have it.

2019-01-26 18:58:01 UTC  

i'm not spiritual

2019-01-26 18:58:09 UTC  

Daisy's great

2019-01-26 18:58:11 UTC  

I view it was a sort of noble lie, that individuals are accountable for their actions because no social system can survive on the concept that we aren't

2019-01-26 18:58:18 UTC  

Proof Tim is alt right <:NPC:500042527231967262>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/538794833540808738/Screenshot_20190126-105704_YouTube.jpg

2019-01-26 18:58:21 UTC  

She just did a Patreon deletion stream last night too

2019-01-26 18:58:21 UTC  

Neuroscience exists, obviously

2019-01-26 18:58:30 UTC  

but i sure as fuck dont think that our mind is just piece of fleshy machinery

2019-01-26 18:58:30 UTC  

Just because we can't prove pixies don't exist doesnt mean it's not true

2019-01-26 18:58:35 UTC  

free will does not mean random

2019-01-26 18:58:48 UTC  

I am still surprise it is monetize