Message from @Strufa

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2019-01-26 18:54:26 UTC  

yeah but the sense of self

2019-01-26 18:54:33 UTC  

I think old man JBP outlined this very argument himself

2019-01-26 18:54:34 UTC  

the workings of it etc

2019-01-26 18:54:39 UTC  

is different imo

2019-01-26 18:54:42 UTC  

We don't know

2019-01-26 18:54:43 UTC  

Who here is for Democrats and who for republicans?

2019-01-26 18:54:48 UTC  

i mean it might be created by structure of the body

2019-01-26 18:54:52 UTC  

but its separate from the body

2019-01-26 18:54:56 UTC  

Republicans can meme, Democrats can't

2019-01-26 18:54:59 UTC  

Republicans > Democrats

2019-01-26 18:55:00 UTC  

But there are no proof of it being inmaterial

2019-01-26 18:55:16 UTC  

Thats just asuming things you don't know

2019-01-26 18:55:17 UTC  

you don't get me

2019-01-26 18:55:18 UTC  

@ThreeOfOne only reason to choose your vote 😜

2019-01-26 18:55:20 UTC  

I'm not for the Uniparty establishment.

2019-01-26 18:55:25 UTC  

i'm talking about data

2019-01-26 18:55:35 UTC  

i'm quite sure it's not material

2019-01-26 18:55:38 UTC  

information

2019-01-26 18:55:52 UTC  

Dude

2019-01-26 18:55:55 UTC  

Thats a concept

2019-01-26 18:55:59 UTC  

Not a real thing

2019-01-26 18:56:02 UTC  

The brain is complex maybe let’s keep it at that

2019-01-26 18:56:07 UTC  

We define data

2019-01-26 18:56:11 UTC  

but what is the consciousness then ?

2019-01-26 18:56:11 UTC  

Brain or mind?

2019-01-26 18:56:15 UTC  

But the data itself doesnt exist

2019-01-26 18:56:24 UTC  

@Montgomereeeee I think that our actions are driven by much older subconscious / unconscious subsystems of the brain and when those actions align with our conscious desires we experience an illusion of agency

2019-01-26 18:56:24 UTC  

BRAIN 🧟‍♀️

2019-01-26 18:56:33 UTC  

can you prove its body ? if so does that mean you're pretty much dying all the time

2019-01-26 18:56:36 UTC  

It's a deffinition we give to something to understand it

2019-01-26 18:56:37 UTC  

what do you think free will is?

2019-01-26 18:56:37 UTC  

and just copying yourself ?

2019-01-26 18:56:54 UTC  

you prolly don't have any cells you had when you were a kid

2019-01-26 18:56:56 UTC  

so basically, free will is the sense that we control our actions because we happened to do what we wanted at a given moment

2019-01-26 18:57:02 UTC  

ybasically all of them died

2019-01-26 18:57:07 UTC  

The brain is complex but not impenetrable.

2019-01-26 18:57:10 UTC  

Nope but since there is no proof that it's not and every other thing that derivates from the body is the body

2019-01-26 18:57:12 UTC  

that means you're not you that you were born, you're just a copy

2019-01-26 18:57:15 UTC  

but there are various mental disorders where this mechanism breaks horribly like schizophrenia

2019-01-26 18:57:17 UTC  

There is literally no (real) data on how our consciousness works.

2019-01-26 18:57:19 UTC  

Free will is volition