Message from @ThreeOfOne

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2019-01-26 18:55:18 UTC  

@ThreeOfOne only reason to choose your vote 😜

2019-01-26 18:55:20 UTC  

I'm not for the Uniparty establishment.

i'm talking about data

i'm quite sure it's not material

information

2019-01-26 18:55:52 UTC  

Dude

2019-01-26 18:55:55 UTC  

Thats a concept

2019-01-26 18:55:59 UTC  

Not a real thing

2019-01-26 18:56:02 UTC  

The brain is complex maybe let’s keep it at that

2019-01-26 18:56:07 UTC  

We define data

but what is the consciousness then ?

2019-01-26 18:56:11 UTC  

Brain or mind?

2019-01-26 18:56:15 UTC  

But the data itself doesnt exist

2019-01-26 18:56:24 UTC  

@Montgomereeeee I think that our actions are driven by much older subconscious / unconscious subsystems of the brain and when those actions align with our conscious desires we experience an illusion of agency

2019-01-26 18:56:24 UTC  

BRAIN πŸ§Ÿβ€β™€οΈ

can you prove its body ? if so does that mean you're pretty much dying all the time

2019-01-26 18:56:36 UTC  

It's a deffinition we give to something to understand it

2019-01-26 18:56:37 UTC  

what do you think free will is?

and just copying yourself ?

you prolly don't have any cells you had when you were a kid

2019-01-26 18:56:56 UTC  

so basically, free will is the sense that we control our actions because we happened to do what we wanted at a given moment

ybasically all of them died

2019-01-26 18:57:07 UTC  

The brain is complex but not impenetrable.

2019-01-26 18:57:10 UTC  

Nope but since there is no proof that it's not and every other thing that derivates from the body is the body

that means you're not you that you were born, you're just a copy

2019-01-26 18:57:15 UTC  

but there are various mental disorders where this mechanism breaks horribly like schizophrenia

2019-01-26 18:57:17 UTC  

There is literally no (real) data on how our consciousness works.

2019-01-26 18:57:19 UTC  

Free will is volition

2019-01-26 18:57:31 UTC  

There is a mountain of data on how our brains work.

2019-01-26 18:57:34 UTC  

I.e Brain/mind debate

2019-01-26 18:57:38 UTC  

Well I agree that our choices are influenced but we should still hold ourselves accountable @ThreeOfOne

just cause there's no proof doesn't mean it's not true, it only means it hasnt been proven

2019-01-26 18:57:46 UTC  

I also agree

2019-01-26 18:57:49 UTC  

I was vague lol

2019-01-26 18:57:49 UTC  

Wait let me get to the pc i love this kind of phylosofical debate

2019-01-26 18:57:54 UTC  

how does one make a decision? well they use their judgement, which is based on their past.
so free will is both real and deterministic. we definitely have it.

i'm not spiritual

2019-01-26 18:58:09 UTC  

Daisy's great

2019-01-26 18:58:11 UTC  

I view it was a sort of noble lie, that individuals are accountable for their actions because no social system can survive on the concept that we aren't

2019-01-26 18:58:18 UTC  

Proof Tim is alt right <:NPC:500042527231967262>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/538794833540808738/Screenshot_20190126-105704_YouTube.jpg