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But there are no proof of it being inmaterial

Thats just asuming things you don't know

you don't get me

@ThreeOfOne only reason to choose your vote 😜

I'm not for the Uniparty establishment.

i'm talking about data

i'm quite sure it's not material

information

Dude

Thats a concept

Not a real thing

The brain is complex maybe let’s keep it at that

We define data

but what is the consciousness then ?

Brain or mind?

But the data itself doesnt exist

@Montgomereeeee I think that our actions are driven by much older subconscious / unconscious subsystems of the brain and when those actions align with our conscious desires we experience an illusion of agency

BRAIN 🧟‍♀️

can you prove its body ? if so does that mean you're pretty much dying all the time

It's a deffinition we give to something to understand it

what do you think free will is?

and just copying yourself ?

you prolly don't have any cells you had when you were a kid

so basically, free will is the sense that we control our actions because we happened to do what we wanted at a given moment

ybasically all of them died

The brain is complex but not impenetrable.

Nope but since there is no proof that it's not and every other thing that derivates from the body is the body

that means you're not you that you were born, you're just a copy

but there are various mental disorders where this mechanism breaks horribly like schizophrenia

There is literally no (real) data on how our consciousness works.

Free will is volition

There is a mountain of data on how our brains work.

I.e Brain/mind debate

Well I agree that our choices are influenced but we should still hold ourselves accountable @ThreeOfOne

just cause there's no proof doesn't mean it's not true, it only means it hasnt been proven

I also agree

I was vague lol

Wait let me get to the pc i love this kind of phylosofical debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8QE3B_rG9w

how does one make a decision? well they use their judgement, which is based on their past.
so free will is both real and deterministic. we definitely have it.