Message from @ThreeOfOne

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2019-01-26 18:56:54 UTC  

you prolly don't have any cells you had when you were a kid

2019-01-26 18:56:56 UTC  

so basically, free will is the sense that we control our actions because we happened to do what we wanted at a given moment

2019-01-26 18:57:02 UTC  

ybasically all of them died

2019-01-26 18:57:07 UTC  

The brain is complex but not impenetrable.

2019-01-26 18:57:10 UTC  

Nope but since there is no proof that it's not and every other thing that derivates from the body is the body

2019-01-26 18:57:12 UTC  

that means you're not you that you were born, you're just a copy

2019-01-26 18:57:15 UTC  

but there are various mental disorders where this mechanism breaks horribly like schizophrenia

2019-01-26 18:57:17 UTC  

There is literally no (real) data on how our consciousness works.

2019-01-26 18:57:19 UTC  

Free will is volition

2019-01-26 18:57:31 UTC  

There is a mountain of data on how our brains work.

2019-01-26 18:57:34 UTC  

I.e Brain/mind debate

2019-01-26 18:57:38 UTC  

Well I agree that our choices are influenced but we should still hold ourselves accountable @ThreeOfOne

2019-01-26 18:57:45 UTC  

just cause there's no proof doesn't mean it's not true, it only means it hasnt been proven

2019-01-26 18:57:46 UTC  

I also agree

2019-01-26 18:57:49 UTC  

I was vague lol

2019-01-26 18:57:49 UTC  

Wait let me get to the pc i love this kind of phylosofical debate

2019-01-26 18:57:54 UTC  

how does one make a decision? well they use their judgement, which is based on their past.
so free will is both real and deterministic. we definitely have it.

2019-01-26 18:58:01 UTC  

i'm not spiritual

2019-01-26 18:58:09 UTC  

Daisy's great

2019-01-26 18:58:11 UTC  

I view it was a sort of noble lie, that individuals are accountable for their actions because no social system can survive on the concept that we aren't

2019-01-26 18:58:18 UTC  

Proof Tim is alt right <:NPC:500042527231967262>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/538794833540808738/Screenshot_20190126-105704_YouTube.jpg

2019-01-26 18:58:21 UTC  

She just did a Patreon deletion stream last night too

2019-01-26 18:58:21 UTC  

Neuroscience exists, obviously

2019-01-26 18:58:30 UTC  

but i sure as fuck dont think that our mind is just piece of fleshy machinery

2019-01-26 18:58:30 UTC  

Just because we can't prove pixies don't exist doesnt mean it's not true

2019-01-26 18:58:35 UTC  

free will does not mean random

2019-01-26 18:58:48 UTC  

I am still surprise it is monetize

2019-01-26 18:58:49 UTC  
2019-01-26 18:59:05 UTC  

If free will existed then you would lead your stream of consciousness instead of your stream of consciousness leading you.

2019-01-26 18:59:06 UTC  

if we don't have free will

2019-01-26 18:59:08 UTC  

Dang it, I was just about to write about Godel's incompleteness theorems too

2019-01-26 18:59:14 UTC  

then nobody is responsible for anything

2019-01-26 18:59:14 UTC  

there's some pretty funny arguments you can use to discount free will

2019-01-26 18:59:22 UTC  

like ask anyone to come up with a random sequence of numbers

2019-01-26 18:59:23 UTC  

If we didnt have free will it doesnt matter

2019-01-26 18:59:29 UTC  

We are still we

2019-01-26 18:59:33 UTC  

I think our choices are mostly based on survival instinct and our fight (or lack of) to be on the top of social hierarchy. @ThreeOfOne I think we’re just intelligent animals

2019-01-26 18:59:34 UTC  

And we act the same

2019-01-26 18:59:52 UTC  

odds are the numbers they produce are not random and are probably related to something recent

2019-01-26 18:59:58 UTC  

no, umm, that's animals ;P