Message from @Leeroy
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yeah fucking 632 was death of Mohammad
So that'd fit the timeline
Oh oop
you mean Charles Martel?
god damn they got their shit together fast
Charles Martel, the savior of Europe
/Christianity
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so livid rn
Islam has it's faults but the Caliphates it held were really good with fightin
One of us
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I've heard it called a religion of conquerers, since that's how the book is written, to promote that sort of thing
Not an expert though
i mean at the time
they were both violent as fuck
The religion of peas
or charlie held back them sandies
just barley
shame it wasn't the religion of mushy peas
which was impressive in that the muslim forces werent pushovers either
Conquering doesn't really fit so well within the modern day
The Muslim forces were really good for their time
they stayed amazing until
Very well adapted to the desert environment
shit like mid 1600s?
Wasnt the final fuck off for the muslims the Siege of Vienna?
They stayed amazing until....I want to say until bows stopped being top dog
muslims were a powerful thing for as long as the ottomans existed
so i guess 1900s
who started the first crusade
okay it was way after tours
Well by Muslims are we talking like ancient Crusades or more modern Ottoman Empire / Iraq-Iran?
muslims being byzantine/northern africa
and middle east obv
Then yeah, they lost their advantage once guns became the primary weapon of war
Part of it is the culture that served them well in medieval warfare just did not translate well to industrial warfare
tryna watch the last season of black mirror, really not feeling it so far. just got past "crocodile"
Black mirror gay
Which is why a lot of middle eastern armies get routinely btfo by small insurgent groups