Message from @Leeroy

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2018-11-24 20:42:23 UTC  

yeah fucking 632 was death of Mohammad

2018-11-24 20:42:25 UTC  

So that'd fit the timeline

2018-11-24 20:42:34 UTC  

Oh oop

2018-11-24 20:42:40 UTC  

you mean Charles Martel?

2018-11-24 20:42:52 UTC  

god damn they got their shit together fast

2018-11-24 20:43:10 UTC  

Charles Martel, the savior of Europe

2018-11-24 20:43:17 UTC  

/Christianity

2018-11-24 20:43:25 UTC  

@MidshipGary 😡

2018-11-24 20:43:41 UTC  

😡 😡 😡 😡

2018-11-24 20:43:44 UTC  

so livid rn

2018-11-24 20:43:53 UTC  

Islam has it's faults but the Caliphates it held were really good with fightin

2018-11-24 20:43:54 UTC  

One of us
One of us
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2018-11-24 20:44:10 UTC  

I've heard it called a religion of conquerers, since that's how the book is written, to promote that sort of thing

2018-11-24 20:44:15 UTC  

Not an expert though

2018-11-24 20:44:26 UTC  

i mean at the time

2018-11-24 20:44:30 UTC  

they were both violent as fuck

2018-11-24 20:44:34 UTC  

The religion of peas

2018-11-24 20:44:43 UTC  

or charlie held back them sandies

2018-11-24 20:44:46 UTC  

just barley

2018-11-24 20:44:56 UTC  

shame it wasn't the religion of mushy peas

2018-11-24 20:44:59 UTC  

I could get behind that

2018-11-24 20:45:02 UTC  

which was impressive in that the muslim forces werent pushovers either

2018-11-24 20:45:04 UTC  

Conquering doesn't really fit so well within the modern day

2018-11-24 20:45:15 UTC  

The Muslim forces were really good for their time

2018-11-24 20:45:21 UTC  

they stayed amazing until

2018-11-24 20:45:22 UTC  

Very well adapted to the desert environment

2018-11-24 20:45:24 UTC  

shit like mid 1600s?

2018-11-24 20:45:25 UTC  

Wasnt the final fuck off for the muslims the Siege of Vienna?

2018-11-24 20:45:38 UTC  

They stayed amazing until....I want to say until bows stopped being top dog

2018-11-24 20:45:39 UTC  

muslims were a powerful thing for as long as the ottomans existed

2018-11-24 20:45:43 UTC  

so i guess 1900s

2018-11-24 20:46:02 UTC  

who started the first crusade

2018-11-24 20:46:19 UTC  

okay it was way after tours

2018-11-24 20:46:22 UTC  

Well by Muslims are we talking like ancient Crusades or more modern Ottoman Empire / Iraq-Iran?

2018-11-24 20:46:40 UTC  

muslims being byzantine/northern africa

2018-11-24 20:46:45 UTC  

and middle east obv

2018-11-24 20:47:01 UTC  

Then yeah, they lost their advantage once guns became the primary weapon of war

2018-11-24 20:47:19 UTC  

Part of it is the culture that served them well in medieval warfare just did not translate well to industrial warfare

2018-11-24 20:47:22 UTC  

tryna watch the last season of black mirror, really not feeling it so far. just got past "crocodile"

2018-11-24 20:47:36 UTC  

Black mirror gay

2018-11-24 20:47:44 UTC  

Which is why a lot of middle eastern armies get routinely btfo by small insurgent groups