Message from @moira

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2020-03-17 00:23:47 UTC  

What does that have to do with what

2020-03-17 00:24:24 UTC  

It was a response to @OrthoGoat though I suppose the holy Roman empire may have also had issues with homosexuals

2020-03-17 00:25:49 UTC  

But wouldn't christian Rome not have homosexuals anymore?

2020-03-17 01:02:45 UTC  

Which is why I said, "The Holy Roman empire is not truly Rome"

2020-03-17 01:10:33 UTC  

But what does the HRE have to do with Rome?

2020-03-17 01:11:01 UTC  

Or this question?

2020-03-17 02:26:43 UTC  

I see his reformation as the death of Rome and the start of something completely made inaccessible to European and Mediterranean identity. This marriage of Christian beliefs and government into a "Christian Rome" controlled people with exoteric Platonic forms as opposed to teaching them the underlying framework Christianity was based on and has only served to leave us with a vestigial remnant of a dead era

2020-03-17 02:28:31 UTC  

The more you employ social restriction as an external force on your population, the more feminine they become. They are being made formless to occupy an ideal stated by the controlling powers.

2020-03-17 06:39:27 UTC  

Rome fell as a result of overexertion and monotheism

2020-03-17 06:50:57 UTC  

@Light Havent seen you in a while

2020-03-17 10:05:35 UTC  

But still, Christian Rome =/= HRE

2020-03-17 11:39:14 UTC  

I think lead poisoning also helped with the collapse.

2020-03-17 11:39:27 UTC  

point is religion didn't really impact it.

2020-03-17 12:17:58 UTC  

> lead poisoning

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587029563863990282/689447435994529868/jksdw.jpg

2020-03-17 12:21:27 UTC  

The Romans were one of the first people that had plumbing.
problem is that all their pipes were made out of lead.
There is a reason we don't use lead pipes and weld cans closed with lead anymore.

2020-03-17 12:22:07 UTC  

In fact the word "plumber" was derived from the Latin word for lead.

2020-03-17 12:22:57 UTC  

But then why did lead poisoning contribute to the fall of the empire since the lead pipes had always existed?

2020-03-17 12:26:10 UTC  

I think it took a while to pile up.
I'm not an expert on Rome but I don't think mass lead poisoning helped things.

2020-03-17 12:26:57 UTC  

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/lead-poisoning/symptoms-causes/syc-20354717
I mean having this stuff on a really big scale doesn't really help with the stability of a nation.

2020-03-17 18:25:55 UTC  

I still don't understand why all the denominations are at each other's throats

2020-03-17 18:27:07 UTC  

if you are all Christians Why can't you get along and civilly discuss doctrinal differences

2020-03-17 18:28:20 UTC  

I think it is weird that despite being the same base religion, you all hate each other

2020-03-17 18:28:59 UTC  

isn't that heretical?

2020-03-17 18:31:21 UTC  

ig the thing I disagree with most is the church being involved in the government

2020-03-17 18:31:49 UTC  

not only are you forcing everyone to adopt the same mindset, the church can easily become corrupted with that much power

2020-03-17 18:32:14 UTC  

and i don't see the government as a moral enforcer

2020-03-17 18:32:43 UTC  

that's not what the state job is

2020-03-17 18:32:57 UTC  

it is to create a level playing field economically

2020-03-17 18:33:28 UTC  

all that will happen when you fuse the church and state is that people will become mad

2020-03-17 18:38:00 UTC  

“should, yeah, should, that’s nice, yeah.”

2020-03-17 18:38:43 UTC  

what are you talking about

2020-03-17 18:49:29 UTC  

@moira what you say sounds nice, but it's heresy. We cannot endorse schismatics or heretics, or you are supporting sin. You are called to spread Christ. Nor can it be said that the states job is purely economic, that will lead to the fall of a nation, and is anti biblical and heresy.

2020-03-17 18:49:49 UTC  

And the church cannot be corrupted, according to Christ.

2020-03-17 18:51:04 UTC  

what is anti Biblical is not showing kindness to others

2020-03-17 18:51:23 UTC  

I never said you should condone or support sin

2020-03-17 18:51:35 UTC  

infact you shouldn't

2020-03-17 18:51:52 UTC  

are you christian? @moira

2020-03-17 18:51:55 UTC  

but it is commanded that you treat your neighbor like yourself

2020-03-17 18:51:59 UTC  

@Lekka agnostic

2020-03-17 18:52:18 UTC  

unless you are a masochist, show people some kindness @Eoppa

2020-03-17 18:52:45 UTC  

and yes the church can be corrupted