Message from @UNITE THE RIGHT

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2018-12-08 21:02:12 UTC  

just like every other socialist country

2018-12-08 21:02:22 UTC  

commodity production =/= not socialism

2018-12-08 21:02:23 UTC  

Read Bordiga

2018-12-08 21:02:28 UTC  

how do you actually have an economy without commodity production

2018-12-08 21:02:34 UTC  

>you don't

2018-12-08 21:02:37 UTC  

nah but fr

2018-12-08 21:02:39 UTC  

we are getting into some kind of utopian thinking here

2018-12-08 21:02:45 UTC  

commodity production not occuring is communismm

2018-12-08 21:03:06 UTC  

It was not produced under primitive communism

2018-12-08 21:03:09 UTC  

Communism as the vision of a society without any money or any kind of commodity production is unrealistic

2018-12-08 21:03:19 UTC  

of course

2018-12-08 21:03:22 UTC  

simply having money is not an inherently bad thing

2018-12-08 21:03:33 UTC  

Wow, look at tribal society @UNITE THE RIGHT

2018-12-08 21:03:36 UTC  

Commodity production happening does not mean it is not socialism

2018-12-08 21:03:50 UTC  

tribal societies havent done very well

2018-12-08 21:03:57 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ that is going against Marx's own saying

2018-12-08 21:04:01 UTC  

Where did he say it

2018-12-08 21:04:03 UTC  

so, using your terms, what is to stop "capitalism" from turning into a "market economy" Side? lol

2018-12-08 21:04:10 UTC  

Plus they actually did for thousands of years @UNITE THE RIGHT

2018-12-08 21:04:21 UTC  

because commodity production stopping is communism

2018-12-08 21:04:24 UTC  

tribal socieities had far lower standards of living

2018-12-08 21:04:30 UTC  

they did it for thousaands of years in shit quality of life

2018-12-08 21:04:32 UTC  

this isnt really a case of opinion i mean, just looking at infant mortality etc

2018-12-08 21:04:40 UTC  

this guy wants to argue tribalism is good

2018-12-08 21:04:47 UTC  

i've been to some places where they have tribalism

2018-12-08 21:04:51 UTC  

this is why socialists are out of touch

2018-12-08 21:04:57 UTC  

i went to Morocco and stayed with some nomads

2018-12-08 21:05:01 UTC  

its not a realistic plan for the entire world

2018-12-08 21:05:02 UTC  
2018-12-08 21:05:07 UTC  

Of course not

2018-12-08 21:05:19 UTC  

these guys are starving, tribalism will just end up in anarchy

2018-12-08 21:05:29 UTC  

Tribalism is retarded

2018-12-08 21:05:36 UTC  

anything apart from capitalism is shit

2018-12-08 21:05:47 UTC  

sorry, just got back so i guess I'm fucking up the conversation. I'll ask some other time.

2018-12-08 21:05:50 UTC  

no becuase remember real communism hasn't been tried.

2018-12-08 21:06:00 UTC  

It actually hasnt

2018-12-08 21:06:00 UTC  

It WaSnt ReAl coMMunism

2018-12-08 21:06:01 UTC  

bash the fash u feel me?

2018-12-08 21:06:03 UTC  

yeah it hasn't

2018-12-08 21:06:07 UTC  

but it can't work for one

2018-12-08 21:06:13 UTC  

Not actually true