Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-12-08 21:01:12 UTC  

what countries were actually socialist then?

2018-12-08 21:01:19 UTC  

all those countries above

2018-12-08 21:01:20 UTC  

if it wasnt the USSR or Cuba or anything

2018-12-08 21:01:26 UTC  

in repressed

2018-12-08 21:01:31 UTC  

@UNITE THE RIGHT CNT-FAI Catalonia

2018-12-08 21:01:34 UTC  

some other countries like Mao China

2018-12-08 21:01:37 UTC  

CATALONIA LOL

2018-12-08 21:01:42 UTC  

Catalonia during the spanish civil war?

2018-12-08 21:01:46 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-08 21:01:49 UTC  

Mao China, India were socialist

2018-12-08 21:01:50 UTC  

ages ago

2018-12-08 21:01:54 UTC  

USSR of course was

2018-12-08 21:01:57 UTC  

Yugoslavia

2018-12-08 21:01:59 UTC  

Not true

2018-12-08 21:02:01 UTC  

Eastern bloc

2018-12-08 21:02:04 UTC  

yes true

2018-12-08 21:02:04 UTC  

being realistic Catalonia didnt really work out well

2018-12-08 21:02:06 UTC  

^

2018-12-08 21:02:12 UTC  

They all had commodity production

2018-12-08 21:02:12 UTC  

just like every other socialist country

2018-12-08 21:02:22 UTC  

commodity production =/= not socialism

2018-12-08 21:02:23 UTC  

Read Bordiga

2018-12-08 21:02:28 UTC  

how do you actually have an economy without commodity production

2018-12-08 21:02:34 UTC  

>you don't

2018-12-08 21:02:37 UTC  

nah but fr

2018-12-08 21:02:39 UTC  

we are getting into some kind of utopian thinking here

2018-12-08 21:02:45 UTC  

commodity production not occuring is communismm

2018-12-08 21:03:06 UTC  

It was not produced under primitive communism

2018-12-08 21:03:09 UTC  

Communism as the vision of a society without any money or any kind of commodity production is unrealistic

2018-12-08 21:03:19 UTC  

of course

2018-12-08 21:03:22 UTC  

simply having money is not an inherently bad thing

2018-12-08 21:03:33 UTC  

Wow, look at tribal society @UNITE THE RIGHT

2018-12-08 21:03:36 UTC  

Commodity production happening does not mean it is not socialism

2018-12-08 21:03:50 UTC  

tribal societies havent done very well

2018-12-08 21:03:57 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ that is going against Marx's own saying

2018-12-08 21:04:01 UTC  

Where did he say it

2018-12-08 21:04:03 UTC  

so, using your terms, what is to stop "capitalism" from turning into a "market economy" Side? lol

2018-12-08 21:04:10 UTC  

Plus they actually did for thousands of years @UNITE THE RIGHT

2018-12-08 21:04:21 UTC  

because commodity production stopping is communism

2018-12-08 21:04:24 UTC  

tribal socieities had far lower standards of living

2018-12-08 21:04:30 UTC  

they did it for thousaands of years in shit quality of life