Message from @BeatleJuice
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Holodmor existed yes
paleoconservative is the way to go, just not with the kikery
the socialists denying it is just as bad as the holocaust
you cant deny there was mass starvation
I g2g
10m
A spacial map of the ukranian famine of 1932-33 by harvard. There's a lot of information and generally it helps debunk a lot of myths about the holodomor. the map shows, among other things, that there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine (some of the hardest hit areas had the largest Russian minority), raw procurement per capita was lower in areas with famine (although plan fulfillment was higher because the plan targets were lowered), and more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates
http://gis.huri.harvard.edu/historical-atlas/the-great-famine/famine-web-map.html
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70m after
I'm a Reagan republican, get on my level
ethnic and religious genocide
ok, so this says there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine
10m
there was still a famine
No shit
Holodomor was real
We don't deny that
and it was because of a failed USSR policy
Actually not
dont try to defend the USSR because it was a shit regime
The source shows collectivized agriculture was linked to lower rates of famine
there are reasons for that
because they stole everyone's grain who wasnt collectivised and killed them
read 200 years together
@UNITE THE RIGHT no source
might help you undersand
grain confiscation was a thing
ill find it
they stole the barley
and the seeds
and everything
export
no import
starved them
A letter showing soviet authority had stopped existing in Ukraine, and Stalin was unaware of mass starvation at this time but tried to relieve the situation when informed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025247756320827/unknown.png
the letter it was in response too for context
http://www.stalinsociety.org/2015/10/03/fighting-the-holodomor-myth-archival-evidence-that-stalin-was-unaware-of-conditions-in-the-ukraine-and-tried-to-relieve-the-situation-when-he-was-informed/
A document showing that the regional committees appeared to be pulling the wool over the CC's eyes and were not managing things properly
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025531697987594/unknown.png
full sized document
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411984716430835715/411992392506277888/unknown.png
A document showing that due to the famine elsewhere they couldn't reduce quotas, but did send back some grain lent to them
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025631786926082/unknown.png
A document showing that there had been a lot of mismanagement and that those who were behind these failures lied about what was happening and how much they were producing, and as a result they were to be punished
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025763626352661/unknown.png
full sized document
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411984716430835715/411992983026663465/unknown.png
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dude, read 200 years together.. its amazing
oof
sad
Gtfo with your dumb book
this is along the same lines as justifying the holocaust
or trying to trivialise it