you cant deny there was mass starvation

I g2g

10m

A spacial map of the ukranian famine of 1932-33 by harvard. There's a lot of information and generally it helps debunk a lot of myths about the holodomor. the map shows, among other things, that there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine (some of the hardest hit areas had the largest Russian minority), raw procurement per capita was lower in areas with famine (although plan fulfillment was higher because the plan targets were lowered), and more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates

http://gis.huri.harvard.edu/historical-atlas/the-great-famine/famine-web-map.html
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70m after

I'm a Reagan republican, get on my level

ethnic and religious genocide

ok, so this says there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine

10m

there was still a famine

No shit

Holodomor was real

We don't deny that

and it was because of a failed USSR policy

Actually not

dont try to defend the USSR because it was a shit regime

The source shows collectivized agriculture was linked to lower rates of famine

twas chewish 85%

there are reasons for that

because they stole everyone's grain who wasnt collectivised and killed them

read 200 years together

@UNITE THE RIGHT no source

might help you undersand

grain confiscation was a thing

ill find it

they stole the barley

and the seeds

and everything

export

no import

starved them

A letter showing soviet authority had stopped existing in Ukraine, and Stalin was unaware of mass starvation at this time but tried to relieve the situation when informed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025247756320827/unknown.png

the letter it was in response too for context
http://www.stalinsociety.org/2015/10/03/fighting-the-holodomor-myth-archival-evidence-that-stalin-was-unaware-of-conditions-in-the-ukraine-and-tried-to-relieve-the-situation-when-he-was-informed/

A document showing that the regional committees appeared to be pulling the wool over the CC's eyes and were not managing things properly
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025531697987594/unknown.png
full sized document
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411984716430835715/411992392506277888/unknown.png

A document showing that due to the famine elsewhere they couldn't reduce quotas, but did send back some grain lent to them
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025631786926082/unknown.png

A document showing that there had been a lot of mismanagement and that those who were behind these failures lied about what was happening and how much they were producing, and as a result they were to be punished
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025763626352661/unknown.png
full sized document
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411984716430835715/411992983026663465/unknown.png


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dude, read 200 years together.. its amazing

oof

sad

Gtfo with your dumb book

this is along the same lines as justifying the holocaust

or trying to trivialise it

A document showing quotas had been lowered as much as possible but areas still under produced. Also shows kulak sabotage was an issue
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025894228459521/unknown.png
full sized document
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/411984716430835715/411993378054602752/unknown.png

A document showing that the punishment of aggravated failure (sabotage) of crops was to be punished to a greater extent
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412026006623223808/unknown.png
full sized document
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/411984716430835715/411993704333574145/unknown.png

A document showing that their was extreme sabotage from kulaks in many ways.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412026115838705674/unknown.png
full sized document
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411984716430835715/411993995846090753/unknown.png

A document showing a regional committee requesting to take repressive measures to stop the famine
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412026197250146315/unknown.png
full sized document
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411984716430835715/411994199001661441/unknown.png

A document showing the CC accepted this request
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412026343144947738/unknown.png

A document stopping the mass migration into the urban areas
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412026440503263232/unknown.png


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It isn't

"kulak sabotage: