Message from @BeatleJuice
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You can never truly keep the full value of your labour under capitalism
we are paying the workers a price they have accepted and a similar price workers for the same job are getting paid, which actually is quite high in western nations
keep?
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ prove USSR had starvation
nope, you get the full value as determined by supply and demand, which is exactly what the CEO gets
lAboUR tHEory of vAlaUE
wait you said USSR wasn't socialist
everyone gets their wages from supply and demand
what happened to that?
>subjective theory of value
what happened to USSR not having socialism
Why is that relevant?
Holodomir
THERE IT IS
Because I said socialist country
but you said
USSR
Holodomor
the USSR had starvation and this is recorded
Holodmor existed yes
the socialists denying it is just as bad as the holocaust
you cant deny there was mass starvation
I g2g
10m
A spacial map of the ukranian famine of 1932-33 by harvard. There's a lot of information and generally it helps debunk a lot of myths about the holodomor. the map shows, among other things, that there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine (some of the hardest hit areas had the largest Russian minority), raw procurement per capita was lower in areas with famine (although plan fulfillment was higher because the plan targets were lowered), and more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates
http://gis.huri.harvard.edu/historical-atlas/the-great-famine/famine-web-map.html
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70m after
I'm a Reagan republican, get on my level
ethnic and religious genocide
ok, so this says there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine
10m
there was still a famine
No shit
Holodomor was real
We don't deny that
and it was because of a failed USSR policy
Actually not
dont try to defend the USSR because it was a shit regime
The source shows collectivized agriculture was linked to lower rates of famine
twas chewish 85%
there are reasons for that