Message from @BeatleJuice

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2018-12-08 21:24:27 UTC  

You can never truly keep the full value of your labour under capitalism

2018-12-08 21:24:27 UTC  

we are paying the workers a price they have accepted and a similar price workers for the same job are getting paid, which actually is quite high in western nations

2018-12-08 21:24:34 UTC  

keep?

2018-12-08 21:24:41 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ prove USSR had starvation

2018-12-08 21:24:46 UTC  

nope, you get the full value as determined by supply and demand, which is exactly what the CEO gets

2018-12-08 21:24:46 UTC  

lAboUR tHEory of vAlaUE

2018-12-08 21:24:55 UTC  

wait you said USSR wasn't socialist

2018-12-08 21:24:57 UTC  

everyone gets their wages from supply and demand

2018-12-08 21:24:58 UTC  

what happened to that?

2018-12-08 21:24:58 UTC  

>subjective theory of value

2018-12-08 21:25:07 UTC  

what happened to USSR not having socialism

2018-12-08 21:25:19 UTC  

Why is that relevant?

2018-12-08 21:25:19 UTC  

Holodomir

2018-12-08 21:25:25 UTC  

THERE IT IS

2018-12-08 21:25:27 UTC  

Because I said socialist country

2018-12-08 21:25:29 UTC  

but you said

2018-12-08 21:25:31 UTC  

USSR

2018-12-08 21:25:33 UTC  

Holodomor

2018-12-08 21:25:34 UTC  

the USSR had starvation and this is recorded

2018-12-08 21:25:36 UTC  

Holodmor existed yes

2018-12-08 21:25:40 UTC  

paleoconservative is the way to go, just not with the kikery

2018-12-08 21:25:46 UTC  

the socialists denying it is just as bad as the holocaust

2018-12-08 21:25:47 UTC  

you cant deny there was mass starvation

2018-12-08 21:25:49 UTC  

I g2g

2018-12-08 21:25:57 UTC  

10m

2018-12-08 21:26:02 UTC  

A spacial map of the ukranian famine of 1932-33 by harvard. There's a lot of information and generally it helps debunk a lot of myths about the holodomor. the map shows, among other things, that there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine (some of the hardest hit areas had the largest Russian minority), raw procurement per capita was lower in areas with famine (although plan fulfillment was higher because the plan targets were lowered), and more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates

http://gis.huri.harvard.edu/historical-atlas/the-great-famine/famine-web-map.html
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2018-12-08 21:26:02 UTC  

70m after

2018-12-08 21:26:08 UTC  

I'm a Reagan republican, get on my level

2018-12-08 21:26:18 UTC  

ethnic and religious genocide

2018-12-08 21:26:21 UTC  

ok, so this says there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine

2018-12-08 21:26:21 UTC  

10m

2018-12-08 21:26:24 UTC  

there was still a famine

2018-12-08 21:26:30 UTC  

No shit

2018-12-08 21:26:36 UTC  

Holodomor was real

2018-12-08 21:26:37 UTC  

We don't deny that

2018-12-08 21:26:41 UTC  

and it was because of a failed USSR policy

2018-12-08 21:26:46 UTC  

Actually not

2018-12-08 21:26:53 UTC  

dont try to defend the USSR because it was a shit regime

2018-12-08 21:27:12 UTC  

The source shows collectivized agriculture was linked to lower rates of famine

2018-12-08 21:27:20 UTC  

twas chewish 85%

2018-12-08 21:27:26 UTC  

there are reasons for that