Well, what'll happen is that the man will make his current salary and the woman will make $0

He'll be absolutely screwed over

Even if the woman has a PhD and could clearly be making more

Do we factor in housework and the like to her salary according to standard industry rates?

That seems like the best option

I don't see why, because the way I am judging it is that *every child has a set amount that economists judge they need to live a happy, healthy, life, and both parents share that cost based on how often they are with the child*

How much you make doesn't matter unless you can't afford to pay it, at which point government assistance should come in

No, I get that

But it's like a slippery slope at that point

Maybe taking care of a child means paying for rent

Or for other things that tangentially help

How far do we hold men responsible?

Only the cost that I mention should be applicable. As if no child existed, rent is your own responsibility

Okay, that makes sense. But in cases where the mother is overwhemingly unable to take care of a child, like can't pay rent at all, then the father should get custody

Like I guess a lot of those types of issues can be dealt with that way

Not providing a suitable living environment should be grounds for having the child taken away by CPS anyway

Sure. I still disagree with you about what should happen if the woman can afford to take care of both her and the child, but aside from that it's been a very good and productive discussion

Thanks for working with me to shape some policy :)

Oh, np

Soooooooo I was over at /r/divorce_men, and directed here for my issue. I filed for divorce, cannot afford a lawyer, but will go fundraising if I need to, and life has been unnecessarily hell, even for a divorce. I need help. I get support, but I need to better arm and prepare myself for the hearings and legal battles ahead.

Where are you based? @Dan da Dad

Just country and jurisdiction as there may be groups in your area

Lee County GA

So far, the minimum retainer I've found is 3k, but I don't feel the hunger. Whether true or not, I feel at a disadvtage simply by being a man in this scenario.

you will probably be, but call the judge out if they are being sexist! they will review their decision if they are a good judge

Operation Canadian BaCon to complain to the CRTC about the CBC's biased coverage before the broadcasting license renewal next year: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/a6wlgk/happening_operation_canadian_bacon_ii_gamergate/

@Jonathan You should make a version for our own sub

@goodmod @Men Are Human @asparkofpyrokravte @Abbysol @blueorange22 I've been thinking about something today, largely about how activism is conducted.

There are places we can write to or call, contact in some way which do things we don't like (eg. A place that performs infant circumcision) to impress upon them why we think what they are doing with good, logical arguments.

But with that comes those users who, when we call for such activism, will write and call them with angry furvour, insulting and putting people off rather than trying to persuade people, this painting the MRM in a bad light and potentially alienating those from supporting our values.

How do we get around this in our activism efforts?

well whenever we post something here or on reddit, make sure we have a note saying this. like i imagine if we launch a specific effort to call an organization we'd make a reddit post about it, make sure that is highlighted.

I don't think we can post things like that on the Reddit, the admins would hear about it if it became an issue and they'd shut the sub down

really? i think they'd be ok with that, @goodmod is an mod there. they seem pretty open minded

do you mean something like calling representatives or organizations when theres a relevant news story?

No, in the example it was the actual place performing the male genital mutilation, I guess it's unique to some other issues in that there are direct places to contact other than legislators and representatives

i see. yeah, we definitely cant be seen as doing anything that can construed as harassment or trolling. and people have leigitmate cause to be upset, but it has to be controlled

I've thought about writing campaigns.

Another similar example would be say there's a daytime tv show that says some pretty horrendous things about men and you call that tv shows office

Did I tell you guys we got an article taken down?

From menarehuman.com or from Reddit?

@InsaneCaterpilla that's a good idea bte

Men are human did a response article, and I think it caused a brigade on the thing we targeted

Article i was responding to is gone