Message from @asparkofpyrokravte
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I think it should be legalised but under very, very heavy regulations
As opposed to terribly geurilla and painfully
Safe is a strange word to use for death
Its not easy to talk about something you're thinking about doing under the threat of getting sectioned.
But I get it
@InsaneCaterpilla that's true but that's not been my experience
I mean, I’ve had my dad scream at me to help him take his life, he fine now
@Abbysol I'm really sorry but he'd be fine if he was dead, too
It may be a strange word, but "safe", as in, read this and consider the result of the failure states: http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/firearms. And as far as failure states go, that one is relatively mild.
:s
No, if he was dead he was have missed his sons graduation today
No, dead people don't miss anything.
They lack that ability
I doubt he would agree with you, especially since it doesn’t just take your own life because it also hurts the people who care about you
Dead people can't agree either. I'm sorry, they just can't.
Being dead is an end to such concerns.
Then it is also Inherently selfish
It sure isn't altrustic, but one has to consider how much of a claim the world has on your life
Well, scratch that
It can sometimes be altruistic
If your actual quality of life if gone, genuinely gone, then fine, let people die with dignity, but not if you are young, healthy, and have the capacity to seek help.
Hrm, are suicidal people inherently unhealthy?
If not, what of cases of young and healthy people who lack a reason to live, who feel meaningless?
Depends, if your life is just shit right now then no, wanting an easy out isn’t that abnormal, however on something like severe clinical depression, it gets a little less clear
It is possible for someone's life to be "just shit right now" for a rather extended period of time
Yes, but there is still that distinction
fair enough
My Aunt committed suicide, all of the shrinks said it was an inevitability because of her severe bipolar
Though I think the DSM V makes it hard to distinguish between the two
Yeah my bad days are hopeless. Good days I'm like "what was my problem?"
@James For that reason I think a sane euthanasia law would establish a months-long waiting period
Evaluation for something like this wouldn’t be a one off session, with consistent sessions with the same person
That's an interesting be dynamic
Though naturally I disagree with Abbysol on the evaluator (not opposed to mandatory counseling, but evalutator is different)
I do understand human errors in judgement, say it is like a 12 month cooling period with regular visits to a councillor, they can give recommendations, reduced cooling periods if you have been diagnosed with something that it either terminal or will severely reduce your quality of life.
I think it would be unethical to be one without the other
Well, having an evaluation is different from being an evaluator
One implies a recommendation, the other a mandate
Sorry, bad wording xD
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