Message from @Indigo
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well I think one of the biggest problems with it are that it focuses on trivial things like race when it should focus on things that impact people more like economic status, where you went to school, what state/country you where born in (in context of feminism) someone who is middle class from a decent income household is going to have different problems to a women born in a low income area, yet the majority of feminism is from that middle to upper class of women, a white women from a red lined district is going to face a lot of the same problems as a black women from the same area, yet intersectionality would suggest that the white women is going to have it too much easier, she will probably wonder why it is so hard then while the black women wonders why she should even bother if it is that difficult... it's why we should only point out problems if you plan on finding solutions.
Hey so is it just me or are women (objectively speaking) enforcing (I couldn't find a better word) the idea of toxic masculinity
I feel like a lot of women do but in a kind of round about way, I think there is confusion as to what masculinity actually is as it can get quite subjective in places.
Yea
Here's some interesting views on intersectionality: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/abf44f/i_was_skeptical_of_mra_but_single_moms_shocked_me/ed0ei4l/
I took the view that one of the potential base concepts of intersectionality is reasonable, just not very useful and often misused
The other guy there took the view that intersectionality is primarily a cover for bigotry
(which I don't *necessarily* disagree with, but I think is hard to substantiate)
Honestly, I agree with you. I think it would be nice to be able to focus on how people are affected on smaller, more individual/cultural levels, however we have to consider how often good ideas get misused.
yeah, good on paper, falls apart in practice... like communism 😄
Look at it from the intersection outward and it looks a lot like they are arbitrarily declaring a bunch of groups to be oppressors by engaging the usual tribal thinking.
reddit /u/AdmiralSP posted a new link in /r/MensRights
Nice to read something positive every now and then. - https://redd.it/abqt5y
Good find. We should upvote to promote debate and investigation of the claims if nothing else.
Right now on r/unpopularopinion
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/abrs9k/the_whole_metoo_movement_was_a_lot_more_about/
Good find
We should upvote to promote debate and investigation of the claims made by me too if nothing else.
I've noticed that /r/rage and /r/unpopularopinion are a lot more welcoming of rejecting feminism and so on than most subs
well unpopular opinion is pretty self explanatory xD
Yep. XD There tend to be a lot more anti-comments there, but the main factor is it's being seen.
Rage, however, seems to basically be on our side - exceping a few people.
@Indigo we should
We need to be all over this. Build support and anger at what's going on.
Don't let them get away with lies
Or bullying
Somebody give it a reply. I'm too tired for it now
I have the perfect thing
Okay. Posted. Anyone who wants to help should not be afraid to use Men Are Human aricles as examples of men getting the same abuse. https://menarehuman.com/sexual-harassment-men-and-boys/amp/
btw, i saw 'mary queen of scots' last night, lol it was obviously a "feminist movie"
Thought it might be
Lemme guess. She's a Mary Sue and the men are all evil/useless.
When appropriate, it just makes sense to let others know there is help and support out there, don'tcha think? https://www.reddit.com/r/Divorce/comments/abnjyo/last_night_she_finally_said_it/ed2r6b7/)
Everyone help out if you can.
yeah, more or less. it wasnt too misandrist but very revisionist
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That's my usual greeting, btw. Not trying to be offensive lol
haha no worries, and thanks for the greeting!
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