Message from @Dinosorcerer

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2018-04-14 16:10:50 UTC  
2018-04-14 16:27:19 UTC  

I just really hope this doesn't become an annual event

2018-04-14 17:51:42 UTC  

You should have all listen to me when I said Democracy had failed

2018-04-14 17:52:49 UTC  

right. because an autocratic government is so much better

2018-04-14 17:53:36 UTC  

it's not like that shit fell flat on its face in WWI and hasn't stopped being BTFO'd since

2018-04-14 17:58:37 UTC  

>Implying the medievals were like that lmao

2018-04-14 17:58:54 UTC  

what was the 30 years war?

2018-04-14 17:59:16 UTC  

the people in medieval times also didn't have to deal with nuclear weapons

2018-04-14 17:59:54 UTC  

A war between catholics and prots which later devolved into a war of succession

2018-04-14 18:00:51 UTC  

The founding fathers didn't have AR-15 as well but I that is irrelevant

2018-04-14 18:01:43 UTC  

it's not really irrelevant. AR-15s don't give you the ability to eliminate life on the planet

2018-04-14 18:02:14 UTC  

the system of monarchies was probably the best system for its time.

2018-04-14 18:02:19 UTC  

but times change

2018-04-14 18:02:36 UTC  

Democracy isn't the opposite of autocracy, it's often the path to it

2018-04-14 18:02:49 UTC  

Times have changed for the worse

2018-04-14 18:03:15 UTC  

what makes you say that?

2018-04-14 18:04:36 UTC  

The divorce rates, the boom and bust cycle, moral relativism, high time preference

2018-04-14 18:05:31 UTC  

And if I remember there is a country that has a mix of democracy and monarchism to this day

2018-04-14 18:05:55 UTC  

Liechtenstein

2018-04-14 18:06:00 UTC  

yeah. it's called a constitutional monarchy

2018-04-14 18:06:13 UTC  

autocrats tend not to like constitutions

2018-04-14 18:06:40 UTC  

Kings had laws before them, they were still subject to it

2018-04-14 18:07:23 UTC  

examples?

2018-04-14 18:07:56 UTC  

perhaps to a higher entity like the church, or to a more powerful kingdom, but not to their own people

2018-04-14 18:16:04 UTC  

@Valet the Clown and all those things you mentioned are a product of post-modernism, not necessarily democracy.

2018-04-14 18:17:21 UTC  

culture is up stream of politics, my dude.

2018-04-14 18:24:20 UTC  

@Dinosorcerer The salic law

2018-04-14 18:28:51 UTC  

ah. yes, the defining negative trait of monarchies

2018-04-14 18:28:56 UTC  

succession

2018-04-14 18:29:50 UTC  

proof positive that you can only reliably count on autocrats to provide for two things: their own status and the status of their children

2018-04-14 18:31:12 UTC  

also Frankish succession worked much differently than the way we think of it today and led to extended infighting amongst a king's sons whenever he died