Message from @Denno
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They are Self Loathing??
I think they should
Its the best solution to their problems imo
Maybe some incels can turn into MGTOWs by loosing their misery and anger towards women and accepting female nature
The line separating both of them is thin after all
Right
The part about the state of mind
Their state of mind is dependent on the external validation coming from interactions with women, so they drag themselfes into the plantation but refuse to work instead of leaving it.
They often appear like backstabbers to me. They'll talk shit about women with you but if you look away and women would give them glances, they instantly fall for it.
Sure
I agree with your assertions about incels
I would say though based on common grievances between women, the system and incels and MGTOW. That line is definitely blurring due to a "common enemy"
But MGTOW proclaim self ownership in their actions and responses to their environment
Incels also have more extreme grievances, for example domestic violence and such. A True MGTOW would not do that by free will
Mgtow seek self actualization
mgtow too seek to be more realistic too. Some are stoic. I think some incels are hedonistic by nature
In terms of being comfortable within a self - imposed neurosis of rage. Often I find that incels will stay at home and play computer games. And writing on forums
I seek stoicism. love Marcus Aurelius and Seneca!
This could be hedonistic for them because cathartic behaviour is their pleasure
Marcus Aurelius and Seneca are the shit
Never heard of 'em
Whats wrong with hedonism?
Or rather, whats your objection to it, wrong doesnt really apply to philosophy.
Hedonism is just a gateway to complete emptiness. It's sure is fun in the short term but long term it creates a void that can never be filled
@Nephil The Pumpkin Kingagreed
My ex was a hardcore hedonist. It ends with using drugs and throwing money out until you have nothing left then your 9 to 5 work and mental problems
Hedonism is fun short term and not longterm?
Worthy to mention that these people tend to always search a thrill which longterm cant give them
I think you got your philosophy mixed up there. Probably with cyreanics
which has also been called cyreanic hedonism
Hedonism Sounds Great if you know what ur doing
Hedonism is a school of thought that argues that the pursuit of pleasure and intrinsic goods are the primary or most important goals of human life. A hedonist strives to maximize net pleasure, but when having finally gained that pleasure, happiness remains stationary
In theory it sounds great, just like Communism
Well of course Pleasure and happiness are completely different things
But in reallife, it does not work.
Pleasure in that sense describes things such as satisfaction with your research, too
and net-pleasure is pleasure minus pain. So, a hedonist wouldnt be slobbing away on heroin knowing the pain it will eventualy bring
Pleasure is short term satisfaction, happines is long term satisfaction, imho
It Doesn't Work Because there is an imbalance in what your doing instead of what your sustaining