are you saying it’s better not to assimilate?

What's the saying, when in rome do as the Roman's do

when the alternative is basically death apparently not

thing is, there are enough muslim immigrants to create their own subcommunity and remain isolated

it’s when you *don’t* assimilate that discord grows between ethnic groups

they don't have to interact with the white majority

Which creates problems when things conflict with the laws of the land

and it’s when these muslim enclaves force islamic law onto non-muslims that this really pisses people off

my point here is that this is relatively different from most other instnaces of immgrant groups

correct

previous immigrant groups didn’t attempt to enforce their cultural customs onto the majority

It's a different kind of immigration too, traditionally it's been European waves of immigration, where the values were skewed but mostly inline

It's a shit storm of circumstance and the current zeitgeist

you can walk through Chinatown or the Irish Quarter without being told to put on a head covering, like my mother was when we were walking quietly through a Muslim neighbourhood in London

right because if they did shit like what just happened would happen to them

this is the same sorta shit thats been happening to immigrant groups

you *don’t* have the right to force foreign customs on locals when you are the outsider

this is the same expectation if you work as an ex-pat in Hong Kong or Shanghai

it isn’t exclusive to Western countries

this is common sense

I hate to use the word but it's better to go along with the flow in public, makes things better overall

refusing to assimilate is the genesis for these sorts of problems

and you know what? we know historically Muslims *can* assimilate, they are deliberately choosing not to now

even when you do assimilate the otherization just becomes less obvious

if you want a great example, in the 60’s to the 80’s there was a wave of Turkish immigration to Western Germany. The Turkish families that moved to Germany picked up German, started businesses that integrated Turkish dishes into German meals or provided Turkish goods, and they became a normal part of the German population with no race riots or mass shootings necessary

i sincerely doubt there wasnt some sort of violence

they didn’t try to force German women to wear head coverings or police the streets with religious militias

you’re welcome to check for yourself.

they didn't have the numbers to be confident enough to try it

if they’re always going to do it if they have enough numbers, then why do we need to let them live in our countries?

why do we have to let them introduce inharmony in cities and create no-go zones that are unpoliceable?

why do we have to accept that when they inevitably go to a Salafist mosque and are indoctrinated into extremist ideologies that they cause mass stabbings and bombings in our city centres?

too late to think about that now, theyre already in the countries and this is already happening

then you can see why people are very much beginning to believe that the only solution is to remove them by force.

i can see that and i am in no way surprised that this sort of thing is happening

it makes complete sense from a cultural and historical perspective

if i can be blunt

are you blaming the majority for the instability these minority enclaves are creating?

are the whites always at fault for these situations?

should we have just barred them entry to begin with like we did with the Chinese Exclusion Act?