Message from @Fluffles

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2019-03-15 15:36:39 UTC  

lole

2019-03-15 15:36:56 UTC  

i can’t say i was surprised either. a lot of average folks in these countries are getting extremely sick of the rising muslim enclaves in their cities.

2019-03-15 15:37:02 UTC  

people are always hostile towards the other

2019-03-15 15:37:26 UTC  

thats just human nature

2019-03-15 15:37:44 UTC  

@Fluffles whites have lived in New Zealand since the 1700s, you can’t act as if it isn’t a homeland for large numbers of white people now.

2019-03-15 15:38:07 UTC  

^

2019-03-15 15:38:13 UTC  

true enough

2019-03-15 15:39:09 UTC  

if you live anywhere in the US/UK/CAN/AUS/NZ Anglosphere it’s pretty much a given that most of the people there are white and most of them have been living in these respective lands for hundreds of years now.

2019-03-15 15:39:48 UTC  

see i think i have a very different perspective as a nonwhite in the anglosphere

2019-03-15 15:39:58 UTC  

<:think:480934654560698380>

2019-03-15 15:40:17 UTC  

what *is* your ethnicity, if you don’t mind my asking?

2019-03-15 15:40:21 UTC  

im chinese

2019-03-15 15:41:52 UTC  

idk, here’s the thing to me

2019-03-15 15:42:53 UTC  

before, in places like the US and the UK, immigrant groups would temporarily cause a scare at first and then it would peter away because said immigrant groups would gradually assimilate themselves within a decade or so into the local culture

2019-03-15 15:43:22 UTC  

they assimilated because of stuff like this

2019-03-15 15:43:44 UTC  

rampant racism and discrimination, being killed, that stuff happened to basically any immigrant group

2019-03-15 15:43:53 UTC  

they assimilated because they had to to survive

2019-03-15 15:44:02 UTC  

are you saying it’s better not to assimilate?

2019-03-15 15:44:08 UTC  

What's the saying, when in rome do as the Roman's do

2019-03-15 15:44:18 UTC  

when the alternative is basically death apparently not

2019-03-15 15:44:41 UTC  

thing is, there are enough muslim immigrants to create their own subcommunity and remain isolated

2019-03-15 15:44:48 UTC  

it’s when you *don’t* assimilate that discord grows between ethnic groups

2019-03-15 15:44:49 UTC  

they don't have to interact with the white majority

2019-03-15 15:45:17 UTC  

Which creates problems when things conflict with the laws of the land

2019-03-15 15:45:24 UTC  

and it’s when these muslim enclaves force islamic law onto non-muslims that this really pisses people off

2019-03-15 15:46:32 UTC  

my point here is that this is relatively different from most other instnaces of immgrant groups

2019-03-15 15:47:17 UTC  

correct

2019-03-15 15:47:36 UTC  

previous immigrant groups didn’t attempt to enforce their cultural customs onto the majority

2019-03-15 15:47:42 UTC  

It's a different kind of immigration too, traditionally it's been European waves of immigration, where the values were skewed but mostly inline

2019-03-15 15:48:35 UTC  

It's a shit storm of circumstance and the current zeitgeist

2019-03-15 15:48:40 UTC  

you can walk through Chinatown or the Irish Quarter without being told to put on a head covering, like my mother was when we were walking quietly through a Muslim neighbourhood in London

2019-03-15 15:49:14 UTC  

right because if they did shit like what just happened would happen to them

2019-03-15 15:49:23 UTC  

this is the same sorta shit thats been happening to immigrant groups

2019-03-15 15:50:08 UTC  

you *don’t* have the right to force foreign customs on locals when you are the outsider

2019-03-15 15:50:23 UTC  

this is the same expectation if you work as an ex-pat in Hong Kong or Shanghai

2019-03-15 15:50:53 UTC  

it isn’t exclusive to Western countries

2019-03-15 15:50:57 UTC  

this is common sense

2019-03-15 15:50:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489003669493121031/556142304638009354/D1rrc3RXcAMcYAf.jpg-large.jpeg

2019-03-15 15:51:00 UTC  

I hate to use the word but it's better to go along with the flow in public, makes things better overall

2019-03-15 15:51:21 UTC  

refusing to assimilate is the genesis for these sorts of problems

2019-03-15 15:51:43 UTC  

and you know what? we know historically Muslims *can* assimilate, they are deliberately choosing not to now