Message from @Fluffles
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it’s when you *don’t* assimilate that discord grows between ethnic groups
they don't have to interact with the white majority
Which creates problems when things conflict with the laws of the land
and it’s when these muslim enclaves force islamic law onto non-muslims that this really pisses people off
my point here is that this is relatively different from most other instnaces of immgrant groups
correct
previous immigrant groups didn’t attempt to enforce their cultural customs onto the majority
It's a different kind of immigration too, traditionally it's been European waves of immigration, where the values were skewed but mostly inline
It's a shit storm of circumstance and the current zeitgeist
you can walk through Chinatown or the Irish Quarter without being told to put on a head covering, like my mother was when we were walking quietly through a Muslim neighbourhood in London
right because if they did shit like what just happened would happen to them
this is the same sorta shit thats been happening to immigrant groups
you *don’t* have the right to force foreign customs on locals when you are the outsider
this is the same expectation if you work as an ex-pat in Hong Kong or Shanghai
it isn’t exclusive to Western countries
this is common sense
I hate to use the word but it's better to go along with the flow in public, makes things better overall
refusing to assimilate is the genesis for these sorts of problems
and you know what? we know historically Muslims *can* assimilate, they are deliberately choosing not to now
if you want a great example, in the 60’s to the 80’s there was a wave of Turkish immigration to Western Germany. The Turkish families that moved to Germany picked up German, started businesses that integrated Turkish dishes into German meals or provided Turkish goods, and they became a normal part of the German population with no race riots or mass shootings necessary
i sincerely doubt there wasnt some sort of violence
they didn’t try to force German women to wear head coverings or police the streets with religious militias
you’re welcome to check for yourself.
they didn't have the numbers to be confident enough to try it
if they’re always going to do it if they have enough numbers, then why do we need to let them live in our countries?
why do we have to let them introduce inharmony in cities and create no-go zones that are unpoliceable?
why do we have to accept that when they inevitably go to a Salafist mosque and are indoctrinated into extremist ideologies that they cause mass stabbings and bombings in our city centres?
too late to think about that now, theyre already in the countries and this is already happening
then you can see why people are very much beginning to believe that the only solution is to remove them by force.
i can see that and i am in no way surprised that this sort of thing is happening
it makes complete sense from a cultural and historical perspective
if i can be blunt
are you blaming the majority for the instability these minority enclaves are creating?
are the whites always at fault for these situations?
should we have just barred them entry to begin with like we did with the Chinese Exclusion Act?
i don't know who to blame
im just saying im not surprised this shit is happening
ive seen plenty of racism and been on the recieving end of it enough times to know how it works
You two may be talking past each other now