This is more or less the case

The right tends to go with equality of oppurtunity

Yes

But we all already have equality of outcome, we all die. Trying to guarantee any other outcome is ridiculous, it isn't possible.

The socialists want the latter

there will NEVER be equal opportunity

I have equal opportunity to you. Prove I don't. @Brue

equal oppurtunity in law essentially

like the factual nature of reality may not be exactly equal per se

So, more for equal opportunity in a business sense that is implemented via law

don't we already have this?

No one is blocking my internet based on my class, gender, or race

China, lol

@SuperHeroDeluxe i have wealth, power and the ability to influence outside of availability to find information online, i had better teachers ect

you will never have the connections i have

How do you know you had better teachers? 10% better than mine?

20% better teachers?

Lol

I think the most important quantifying factor of a "successful" life is happiness

do not frame it in quantitative measures, that is going to lead you astray @SuperHeroDeluxe

even if you're out there making the big bucks driving the new cyber truck, miserable is miserable

It's subjective. Of course

framing it like that is off

honestly I would frame it in time, poorer educators cost you more time as you have to spend more time learning on your own

essentially poor education puts you "behind the curve"

but most do not educate themselves past highschool

so you have plenty of time

i could easily frame the convo in terms of better qualitative opportunties

Look, I do all of my work online. I am free to work anywhere on the planet i please. Sattelite phone is expensive but it can be done.

@SuperHeroDeluxe just calling things subjective does not mean there is not different outcomes

where are you from? @SuperHeroDeluxe

California originally

EXPLAINS SO MUCH

I think superhero was saying that happiness is subjective

Just because outcomes are different doesn't mean the people experiencing them are better off or worse

Our president is getting hammered every day with bullshit

He seems to be thriving on it

I think trying to quantify "better" or "worse" on an individual level would be too hard and costly. I think on a collective level then you could have this argument

like, for example, its much easier to state like "this region is 'better' than this other region"

and to back that claim up

I know that I have all the opportunity to get what I want that everyone else has. @Brue thinks I dont