Message from @Dubbi
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I get the impression there's always more money to be had for the NHS, it's jut they're being constrained because they're using their funding inappropriately. I've heard things about them expanding middle management, and cutting nurses/therapists, and I've heard things about plans to keep GPs open 7 days a week by outsourcing to private companies who will cost us more in the long term... then there was the whole issue with Spine, intended to stop the NHS from running on paper, but ended up being run by some private company who did the job wrong and cost the NHS billions
I think it's good that they're investing in NHS Digital, and launching Spine 2... I can really see it paying off in the long run (as long as it's done correctly)
but they're huge projects... so the NHS is gonna be strapped for cash in the meantime
I just get pissed off with all these 'kind' people that REEEE abvout the NHS
none of them would ever actually work for it
Privatize the nhs now tbh
there would be riots
Temporary price to end an immoral socialist system
All socialism needs to end, regardless of how that makes worthless socialists feel
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well let's assume that we get spine 2 up and running and we're able to streamline data processing... presuming data governance rules allow it, think about the potential for large-scale scientific studies. it would be unparalleled. and it's only possible because the NHS is one company with unilateral control over its own data, rather than a bunch of private companies with closely guarded data gathered from small-scale studies
That's theft of resources. Private companies can do research through voluntary investment and donations
Forcing people to fund unaccountable government research is wrong
well consider what harm it can do. it would be like facebook, but where the data benefits all of mankind rather than turns a profit
and you give the data in exchange for free healthcare
so is it theft?
you also consent
data governance rules for healthcare data are the most stringent rules around
Free healthcare is socialism and theft and arguably slavery. You're not entitled to someone else's labor
this is such a one-track line of thinking that I can only assume you're memeing. presuming you're not, I don't think I could convince you either way, so I'll bow out
memeing confirmed π
Not an argument
rape is morally justifiable if done on private property
prove me wrong
cadavers can't consent
prove me wrong
Consent is the basis for civilization. If consent is denied, rape is wrong, even on private property. This is also why socialism is wrong
you mean there's a *social contract*
and so the individual *cannot come first*
they consent to forfeit their rights when they step foot on private property
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Social contract is consent by individuals
so the collective wants to imprison you for what they decided was a crime, and you disagree and do not consent
and it doesn't violate your rights
?
People consent to the legal structure at the start
no you don't
try to live outside of society
and see if it doesn't constitute an offence
try to - say - take possession of property. what if the collective don't consent? you have no property