Reading charts is like... 4th grade

Zaddy, just wondering

Do you think all people deserve to earn the same?

No

Well, that's kind of what socialism is though

Btw having social programs like free healthcare is not socialism

That's jus putting taxpayer money to good use

People should be entitled to the product of their labor!

Which means we should bring back company stores and payment in coupons.

Wealth redistribution is a bad idea though

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I'm a neo-liberal

better

lynch me now please

welfare =! socialism

Welfare = faggotry tho

Wow, socialism isn’t as far left as communism. Communists don’t even believe that every single individual is “equal” in terms of wages and jobs. Look up the labor theory value system @Deleted User

Welfare is socialism, change my mind

well i agree, but i am sort of a fag when it comes to putting in work

Welfare is statism

also being a sperg helps

@Deleted User I dunno what you mean by 'left' in that case

once you get to communism, the left/right gets screwy

then it just becomes totalitarian to whatever specific thing the party wants

Socialism is a wide spot in the narrow road towards attempting to implement communism

totalitarianism is bad, is generally the argument against communism

Welfare can cause a group to come completely depended on the state as they are to lazy to get involved and do things themselves. As a result they cost the state and is therefore ripping off the great populous

@What Would Jack Conte Do? also, the whole "entitled to the fruits of my labor" thing.

@Deleted User Do you think taking care of the poor should be done by an overarching system or for the populace/individuals/private charities to do on their own accord?

well, we're arguing against socialism not communism

Communists do think that everyone is the same

i assume zaddy doesn't want communism... she said she wants socialism

No communists only do if they are all the same @Deleted User

communists want communes, and operate on LTV, that sorta thing

its more complicated than just 'people should be equal'

but the moral argument 'people should be equal' has been given

Socialism is just communism for pussies

Classlessness and all that.

or 'people should have a level playing field' and they don't see the current opportunity model as level

basically though, their morals are 'equality is good'

I just find the idea of people telling others what to do to be morally reprehensible

those that give the moral argument that is... not all will do that