yes, classlessness id say is pretty accurate

the difference between communism and socialism (main difference) is that in socialism, there's still regulators

or something

I do have some food for thought I think you fellows may appreciate; first question, do you think Communism is silly for counting on people to be so moral as to be ok with being forced to work for no reward in order to provide for others? Follow-up question after this.

It's all fucking sophistry @What Would Jack Conte Do?

but it makes sense on paper and its REAL TO ME DAMMIT

cmon fitzy, look into your heart

lol jk

facts not feelings <:kermit_spree:378719408438116352>

facts should be like the machine guns watching over no man's land, and feelings are the infantry being gunned down and caught in barbed wire facts

drowning in muddy facts

^ this

Ok ok, but my question. I have a follow-up you may find interesting.

Wow, you really are a Nigger Jew then.

@Follow Doctor Freeman She won't answer your question.

Just use search on her name or "Kaden"

Oh, no, I meant you guys, here.

What was the question

I’m on the shitter

Truly shitposting

First question, do you think Communism is flawed for counting on people to be so moral as to be ok with being forced to work for no reward in order to provide for others? Follow-up question after this.

I think it's flawed for being antithetical to people's rights to liberty

Under communism, the people are rewarded. They’re rewarded with a job right after school, a house, food, healthcare, etc.

It's glorified slave labor

You really shouldn’t be going for the morality argument because capitalism is far from moral.

To shit with the workers, it’s all about the profit!

Communism, To shit with food we will starve

Capitalism = free voluntary interactions between people

Capitalism is morally neutral

I just facepalmed so fucking hard I knocked my fucking head off. @Deleted User

fuck this question, because we have a factory here that's owned by the workers, so I agree in a single instance, but in an entire country it's shit

A factory won't run well democraticially

@Angus The key point there is *voluntary*

@meratrix you facepalmed at that fact that the free market takes advantage of the working class? Same here bro

No, on you.

They don’t

If a company treats it's workers badly, they will leave.

^

You can't just exploit willy nilly

Oh! Yes, the classic argument