@Goblin_Slayer_Floki it is yes, and is inescapable in totality. But we do not live as meerkats do, for example. We have a hell of a lot of depth to us and our societies. All of that depth is constructed by people.

@flyingfoxel - Yet those words exist and things do fit within the framework of the traits defined by the concept of evil.

yeah humans play make believe all the damn time imagine that

And people are rather animalistic. The individuals survival, procreation, and prosperation is above the whole.

Its just the ways to get that have changed

@flyingfoxel - Removing words from what you want to pay attention to does nothing but make you ignore those concepts. They still exist.

To assume we are "above" our animality, is dishonest at best

@Fitzydog I should have put "JUST by those", but I didn't account for the sentence being read by someone determined to take it out of context and ignore everything else.

Even society and human morality are based on those 3 major concepts

@flyingfoxel - For instance would it just be bad or would it be nothing at all if I lit you on fire because I like the smell of burning flesh and you are an easy source? Most people use the word evil as a super bad category of bad.

human have meta consciousness. something that animals can only show rudimentary thinking at best

the understanding that someone can know something that you do not

Like I said, we can't escape our basic nature, but we don't just live by our basic nature do we or there'd be no difference between us now and people in the fucking stone age would there

or the ability to think about thinking

thats the thing they dont reality does not care if somthing "evil" is happening, there is no karma and evil does not have a weight or measure. if i subjectivily think your act is evil that does nothing has no weight and will not save me from the fire, the concept is mute.

@Roarey There isn't really, is there though?

@Roarey - Might as well get rid of that pesky free will concept and tell the courts it wasn't your fault you played GTA in the streets.

Our societies are just like the stone age? really?

What's changed inside us humans?

@DanConway thats one helva claim not backed in anything,

I never made the claim anything has changed INSIDE people

Gorillas that can use sign language

dolphins possibly have a lexicon larger then most 3rd world country's

Morality isn't just what human nature is, is it

they cannot ask meta questions

@flyingfoxel I'm still waiting for that objective morality claim

@DanConway - What's a meta question?

@Deleted User why mention me i dont think morals exsist let alone are objective

@Roarey I am saying that objective morality is something inside of us

That isn't morality, it is nature.

@flyingfoxel I'm talking about dan still hasn't proven shit

Morality is what we build around natural impulses and imperatives

@flyingfoxel - So you don't care to refer to the type of behavior a person has at all? Sounds like saying that the person doesn't have a gender, weight, height, or skin color when reporting someone to the police for a crime you just witnessed.

Which is why morality progresses and changes and evolves even though our nature doesnt

@ConceptHut all those traits exsist you moron

Or hasn't during the same span of time, I should say

@flyingfoxel - Behavior exists

Belief in, or lack of belief in a truth claim does not make the claim true or false.

@Roarey - Moral understanding changes, morality itself does not change.

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Yes it does change.