>:O fucker only got 19 years? https://www.keyc.com/2019/06/03/minneapolis-man-sentenced-moa-balcony-incident/

I find it strange that attempted murder and successful murder often carry different sentences

difference in sentence because difference in competence?

Competence isn’t the crime though. If someone plans out a murder and carries it out they should be sentenced the same regardless of the success of the murder

Involuntary manslaughter carries a sentence too though, so you could say successful murder is the combination

It is sort of backwards though since involuntary manslaughter is essentially criminalizing incompetence

I don’t agree with that characterization

I get what your saying, but the math seems to be that an attempt and an actual dead body are separate.

pretty much what micamike is saying

I think we should just get rid of the prison system and permenantly exile anyone that commits the big three. Theft, murder, or rape.

1. Premise: Recidivism is a real and incurable phenomenon
2. Premise: Thieves, murderers, and rapists are a threat to civilized society
3. Conclusion: NEW TV SERIES DEBUTING ON FOX THIS FALL!!! DEVIL’S ISLAND!!!! REAL CRIMINALS, REAL DRAMA, REAL FUN!!!!

Seriously. I see nothing wrong with this.

Bring back the Colosseum.

I just wish there was a way to remove all doubt surrounding the veracity of a conviction. If we knew with 100% certainty that an individual committed cold blooded murder it would be great if we could save all the time and money with a 115 grain, 12 cent solution

But as long as we can’t be 100% sure we can’t do that

We should at least have the option available for the instances where it's 100% certain.

Of course. Like these high profile mass murders should essentially be “what say you? Guilty. *bang*. Next.”

That’s far too efficient for government.

Problem there is that too many cases would suddenly become "100% certain"

Set an objective standard. There needs to be proper video evidence.

Exile only works if you control your borders

Lots of deported criminals just return.

Ten years hard labor for anyone caught crossing the border illegally. Add ten years for every additional offense.

Not if they’re exiled to an island broadcast every Tuesday and Friday on Fox this fall

@Deleted User so basically bring back indentured servitude?

No, when your sentence is over you go back home.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/03/lies-anti-abortion-laws-rebecca-solnit

At least they blatantly market this piece of shit as a opinion piece.

I mean that's 90% of the guardian shit that gets linked all over

most of these media institutions are just opinion pieces without good citations for the factual claims made therein and jumping the gun on "breaking news"

I laughed when they made it seem like post birth abortions were a boogyman.

i'm not opening a "the Guardian" link

If anything this wave of abortion bills are in directly caused by Virginia.

i refuse to give them my clicks

This came before Virginia

crap

https://www.factsnotmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/nyc-how-times-have-changed-e1548960545783.jpg

That actually makes me very sad.

Sentencing should be based on intent not outcome

Intent cannot be proven.

Outcome many times can.