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2019-03-13 00:19:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

AOC presidential campaigning has begun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/555183069364092940/unknown.png

2019-03-13 00:27:58 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

maybe the government should pay for it, they approved the codes and building standards that were not sufficient enough to provide 100% fire protection/avoidance

2019-03-13 00:41:24 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

that line of thinking is it also indicative of trying to make gun and bullet manufacturers responsible for how they are used

2019-03-14 16:31:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Think about the impacts to markets under ubi, cheap consumer goods like tvs etc would come under huge demand in the first months, creating scarcity, which as mentioned above cause inflation, etc. And yet people will be hungry for food by the 15th of the month because of people dependency on school lunch programs and food stamps

2019-03-14 16:34:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The systems true value is in the removal of administrative overhead, which would require dismantling all old systems, could you imagine the backlash from people on ssi/ssd if you reduced their checks to 1k a month from a system they paid into all their lives

2019-03-14 16:36:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Also where would such a bill be listed as a federal responsibilty be in the constitution granted the 10th ammendment has never stopped them before

2019-03-14 16:40:37 UTC [Call-In Show Server #off-topic]  

I thought 2024 was the year of the haley/gowdy campaign

2019-03-14 16:42:05 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Especially if their standard of living already far exceeds 1k

2019-03-14 16:44:25 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I have friends in government housing on food stamps, snap, ssd, and medicaid that are certainly receiving more than 1k a month in benefits

2019-03-14 16:53:10 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Then which wealth distribution/social welfare programs get shut off. Like can we get rid of the department of education?

2019-03-14 16:55:45 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Then the benefit of low cost of oversight of ubi is gone

2019-03-14 16:56:52 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Actually ubi wouldnt be as expensive if its paid for out of all other programs and the decrease in government size plus if ubi benefit is taxable

2019-03-14 16:57:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

They give you 1k, you pay 330 back, lol

2019-03-14 16:58:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Communism and wealth redistribution is two seperate conversations

2019-03-14 16:59:29 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The people of the government controlling the means of production is a repeated failed experiment. But wealth redistribution has a role in society, the question is how much

2019-03-14 17:00:34 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The purpose of wealth redistribution is essentially a bribe to keep the low performers from seing violence as the only means to escape their situations

2019-03-14 17:00:56 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Wealth redistribution is not moral, but its certainly logical

2019-03-14 18:15:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Ubi would have to include children if it is going to replace education, snap, wic, school lunch programs, medicaid, chip, aca, etc so the cost would be around 4t

2019-03-14 18:21:25 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The current budget is 4.746t. However in theory you would need to remove all mandatory spending programs which is about 2.7t and many discretionary programs like education 70b, va 87b, hud 43b, and others

2019-03-14 18:24:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

So now your looking at a 1t increase spending per year. If it included the removal of state redistribution programs (which it wouldn't) then you could be looking at breaking even overall. But thats a lot of ifs and as thomas sowell points out, the government would only want to put ubi on top of the programs not instead of the programs

2019-03-14 18:24:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Yang thinks you should get your current entitlements minus 1k a month, which obviously changes nothing for the people on benefits

2019-03-14 18:25:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

And you get none of the benefit of reduced beurocracy

2019-03-14 18:26:45 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Also if they did replace all the current redistribution departments, think of how many people that would leave unemployeed because of loosing government jobs and associated industries

2019-03-14 18:27:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Similar to tax reform, even though we could majorly simply the tax system, we won't because of the industry/labor already invested into our asinine system of bureaucracy

2019-03-14 18:29:58 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

How many gnd supporters have read it? So far ive found 0

2019-03-14 18:54:34 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Another bad part of ubi is the removal of social security which is actually a geneous idea with poor implementation

2019-03-14 18:56:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Social security basically says be lawful and productive and you are guaranteed access to utopia (retirement). Its like creating a heaven on earth. Ubi removes this incentive program

2019-03-14 19:28:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

voting against the emergency declaration is not necessarily pro illegal immigration. for many its a stand against executive overreach

2019-03-14 19:30:32 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

controlling the border and setting quotas on immigration is to separate conversations. that's the real problem, congress can't even divide up the issues into logical chunks and resolve one at a time.

2019-03-14 19:31:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

daca wasn't okay, everyone is for authoritarianism until the authority does not align to their views

2019-03-14 19:35:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

the irony of the immigration discussion is we are hearing two distinct points going on. 1) impending automation will lead to mass unemployment and we must redefine social policy in preparation (ubi for example) 2) we need to increase immigration to help give opportunity to people under stress in poor countries, these people will be a boon to society in production

2019-03-14 19:35:27 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

both these points cannot be true at once

2019-03-14 19:44:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Well assuming climate change kills almost everyone in 12 years, automation shouldnt be an unemployment issue

2019-03-14 23:36:40 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

the environmental doom has been forecasted for ever as results of overpopulation and terraforming, etc. The end result is it can either be viewed/announced as a dooms day scenario, i.e. no one will give a shit because it's to big of a problem. Or it can be broken down into small parts that can be fixed. Easy fixes such as removing farming subsidize and farming price floors could easily free up many american regions to be returned to nature. Opening up trade barriers on goods like sugar from cheap tropical world markets so that corn and beet sugar production is slowed and lands are freed for better uses, removing federal subsidize for living in flood zones removes the financial impact of rising waters, etc. All effectively cost nothing (actually saves money) and improve environmental issues. Yet we ignore these things to focus on nonsense like high speed rail

2019-03-14 23:38:09 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

https://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/ has a great approach, i don't agree with everything but the approach is solid. If we could even agree on an approach, then its just a matter of turning a dial on what a human life is worth, or an average 1 iq point increase is worth to quantify and priorities social reforms

2019-03-14 23:41:26 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

and the evolution of lab grown meat ;P

2019-03-14 23:42:49 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

btw we can modify plants to absorb 4x as much carbon from the atmosphere than we do today. Imagine the impact of every yard having super carbon absorbing grass

2019-03-15 00:10:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

So the soyboys will be the last "men" standing after all?

2019-03-15 01:04:47 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

new story is ugly man, gets hormone replacement and plastic surgery, becomes sexist trans athlete in the school

2019-03-16 18:06:33 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I think they will have a color card like paint samples at home depot. Your shade will determine you payout. I recommend everyone in the tanning both asap to get PAID

2019-03-16 19:30:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

Why are there no trannies who transition to a hippy flat chested feminist with armpit hair and mullet?

2019-03-16 19:38:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

Where is the tranny trailer park tammy?
https://youtu.be/DIzF3vaLV6U

2019-03-16 23:37:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

It is laughable that "feminist" defend trans women who as you say make caricatures of real women

2019-03-16 23:46:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

They don't bother me, people are free to do whatever they want in their own basement. There is just inherent conflict of attacking socialital norms for creating expectations of gender roles at the same time as championing caricatures of those gender roles

2019-03-18 03:21:14 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

its desmond, blonde's kryptonite

2019-03-18 18:48:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Arent the bans for disenter, etc just a bn on the host? What are the legal ramifications to the nz user in the #1 freeist country in the world?

2019-03-19 17:16:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

Question is when will they make basic economics a part of a "liberal" education. If the government is going to manipulate the economy in a democratic society, then the populace needs atleast a cursory understanding of economic cause/effect

2019-03-19 17:44:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

After hearing aoc for months, i support moving the voter age to atleast 35

2019-03-19 17:45:14 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

If you can't have a conversation with using the word "like"

2019-03-20 18:22:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

The ubi video perpetuate s a false narrative (as did yang in the rogan interview). If people do not spend money on a "consumer" goods it doesnt do nothing. Are there people scrooge mcducking their money? No it gets invested. So if it gets put into stocks/bonds it becomes a loan to businesses who spend it on non consumer items. It still stimulates the economy. The narrative needs to stop because its intent feeds the villainisation of people who have accumulated wealth

2019-03-20 18:31:42 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

You certainly can, but most people arent shoving cash into their pillow

2019-03-20 18:57:50 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

Notice how all the venezuelan stories report that they spent all the money on social agenda like education. If they got educated why is finding jobs an issue? Wouldnt all the tech companies be running down their for cheap programming or big pharma be snatching up venezuelan scientists. What were these people educated in?

2019-03-20 19:02:21 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

@shadows the issue is the narrative that money not spent on consumer goods is doing nothing to improve society. Just because a person puts money in a bank doesnt mean its not working for society. It still gets fed back into the hands of corporations (via loans instead of profits) and continues the cycle of economic stimulation

2019-03-20 19:29:48 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

He does point out that the 2008 rebate only modestly stimulated the economy because most people saved it or paid off debts instead of using it (using it i assumr means buying consumer goods)

2019-03-20 19:30:51 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

I would expect that people here understand that unless your money is buried in the yard it will be stimulating the economy

2019-03-20 22:26:12 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

You point out polyamory isn't just sex?

2019-03-20 22:53:26 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I think poly is up to the individuals to ddo what they want. I can't help but think for some portion (not saying all) that it can lead to not addressing issues in the relationship or with the self.

2019-03-20 22:53:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Im pretty traditionalist when i think the point of a relationship is to find joy in serving others

2019-03-21 23:12:17 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

if it's "Not so hard", why aren't you volunteering to knock on my door to come get them?

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1108669237856485376

2019-03-22 18:57:39 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/558726003653083156/giphy.gif

2019-03-22 18:58:29 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

Sounds like 2 out of 5 people need an asian friend

2019-03-23 21:42:40 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

So eugenics?

2019-03-23 21:44:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

Declaring we need to "cure" people from free choice seems a bit harsh. Maybe the cure is empowering the local communities the ability to self govern

2019-03-23 23:14:00 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

Change the kid holding the belt to black and they would call this art

https://mobile.twitter.com/sukari_xo/status/1109225080960311297

2019-03-25 21:10:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Stick to the text, if they dont like the wording there is a process to change it

2019-03-26 02:57:38 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

seems a bit risky to post a list of personal emails/phonenumbers to an open discord channel

2019-03-26 03:02:43 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

k, wasn't aware, just glad i didn't add my name to the list, lol

2019-03-26 03:25:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

yeah, i like the concept, but obviously it comes with some risk. i don't want to be anyones skin suit

2019-03-26 03:27:32 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

i don't want people to find out im a russian bot

2019-03-26 03:27:44 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

ooops, time to change handles

2019-03-26 03:31:27 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

its not how effeminate your rose is, it's where your effeminate rose is and your requests for me to smell it

2019-03-26 04:02:42 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

don't have time for much podcasting, beauty and the beta and mr money mustache are probably the only channels i watch every thing from. Outside of that it depends on how much time i got, who they are interviewing or what the subject is

2019-03-26 04:03:24 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

i watch a lot of iq2 debates as well, as i do like to see a varied opinion. many podcasts are just to one sided

2019-03-26 04:05:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

im retired and i always feel im to busy, lol

2019-03-26 04:06:33 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

today i went to a dr appt from about 0830-0930 am, took wifey for walk in part from 0930-1030, watched a movie in the gap somewhere, went on a run 1800-1900. not sure where the rest of the day went, lol

2019-03-26 04:07:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

and now starts my video game time, which will take up about the next 6 hours

2019-03-26 18:27:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

I buy new also, but i know im not making the best financial decision, although i atleast drive it until the wheels pop off and i buy mine with cash

2019-03-26 21:49:32 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

France and germany are lost, turn your sights on eastern europe where there is still hope

2019-03-27 00:29:25 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

i think its a good opportunity to discuss these ideas and see where people stand

2019-03-27 00:40:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

they can try, instead of showing pictures of regan on a dinosaur

2019-03-27 00:42:01 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

it would help to have some discussions, they interviewed lomborg in 2013 for example

2019-03-27 00:44:25 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

those are market solutions, lomborg has some solid libertarian ideas (and many non-libertarian ideas)

2019-03-27 00:44:55 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

like an easy way to reduce the cost associated with flooding and huricanes... get rid of the federal subsidy on insurance

2019-03-27 00:46:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

or increase efficiency in food production... remove subsidies and price ceilings and floors on agriculture

2019-03-27 00:46:09 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

basically get our sugar from cane instead of beets

2019-03-27 00:47:10 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

get rid of all subsidies will help, that's the approach Israel takes on water, pay the actual cost of use. so people fix their leaky toilets, etc

2019-03-27 00:48:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

i don't agree, farmers make up a small percentage of the country, the problem is lack of education on economics prinicipals

2019-03-27 00:55:03 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

its a vid, you have to watch it

2019-03-27 01:04:51 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

war ofc

2019-03-27 20:18:26 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

The seperatist think you should be ;

2019-03-27 20:18:33 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

Lol

2019-03-28 01:26:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

Mcdonalds benefits from minimum wage hikes as much as anyone. They don't reject it , they welcome it

2019-03-28 17:49:55 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

We shot skeet in phys ed when i was in school

2019-03-28 18:50:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

I am 100% for cutting puerto rico loose

2019-03-28 18:58:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

Im not for absorbing their debts. Im also not for continued disaster relief. We should not absorb the cost of disasters federally. The extra building costs etc is a part of the price you pay to live on a tropical island

2019-03-28 18:58:27 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

Same for florida and california, they can f off

2019-03-28 18:59:44 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

I would support a federal loan program to rebuild, that has limits, and i would support military aid to get threw the immediate issue, but not years long rebuilding

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