Message from @Spartan322
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Muh movers
I do need to legit read more about gnosticism though
I'm waiting for it to get passive aggressive.
only thing I need to ponder on is how fat dat ass --->>>🍑
God for those who believe is a journey to proof that will never be found but it's the journey that matters.
Lame journey
just to point out that's not true, at least for Christian Theologians
The cosmological argument is bullshit. It's just another God of the gaps argument. "I can't imagine what could have caused the universe to exist therefore it MUST have been God"
isn't this argument a rather god of the gaps argument? which is a very safe but pointless point to hold?
Richard Carrier of Atheism+ fame countered with the Universe As God response
its a problem of poor understanding of non-supernaturalists
and bad theologic understanding
Which was interesting to read through
This whole discussion is for fags at the end of the day.
as literally zero religions in existence argue that all their god did was be the first observer.
and @Mongo Jongo yeah this is a very academic discussion
If we accept that there must be a mover, and the universe exists, why can the universe not be its own mover, as God would necessarily be the first mover if used as a cause
Word salad
What is?
this is gonna be rephrased 6 times before somebody says enough
Oh in the actual debate
Aight gs.
Not you beeman...
I've heard self causing one too many times.
Was confused for a moment lol
I'mma head out 🤗👌🏽😎
Peace homie
this isn't the reason I state you can't argue to God
@TheCompanyMan lol
but it is an example of the problem
@Mongo Jongo someone finally got my "post-debate duel" being flesh swords and meat cannons joke
to point out from a theologic foundation you can't engage the mind to God either
Bravo, good sir
this is just Pius word salading around Spader. pretty lame. he is defending the most minimalist form of god. which I'll grant does satisfy the statement but is a pretty semantic and kinda lame one.
@Holmes10 yeah because Pius is defending the existence of God, not his character
its a God of the gaps argument which is theortical
At least with the impeachment stuff today Devin Nunes added some humor, this could use some humor 🙂
I agree the debate is pretty pedantic but Fond wouldn't debate the character of God
Yeah this conversation is pretty low T and dry.