Message from @uncephalized

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2019-03-14 01:59:11 UTC  

Well Its a caricature of Bernie Its Bernie Slanders not Sanders. I dont want to throw it on them if they dont allow or arent in on it

2019-03-14 02:04:47 UTC  

anyone know why discord wouldnt work if ive unmuted my mic?

2019-03-14 02:07:08 UTC  

>check input settings > try different mic> restart discord >reinstall discord >throw out laptop

2019-03-14 02:07:44 UTC  

if you're on browser or mobile you're just fucked too

2019-03-14 02:13:02 UTC  

ok thanks, guess ill try next time

2019-03-14 02:33:50 UTC  

That guy was amazing.

2019-03-14 02:34:35 UTC  

batman will save us

2019-03-14 05:34:38 UTC  

A local school is having a Strike for Climate change soon, thank god
Climate change will be solved, what took them so long?

2019-03-14 05:39:31 UTC  

Thought this was wild.

2019-03-14 05:43:37 UTC  

"yang gang" is idiotic

2019-03-14 05:49:03 UTC  

would you change your mind for $1000?

2019-03-14 06:02:49 UTC  

Only if I got to push the button that gave us all $1000 but ended welfare for everyone.

2019-03-14 15:07:33 UTC  

That's the idea behind UBI actually. End welfare and just have universal gibs every month

2019-03-14 15:08:37 UTC  

The idea being that you can't negatively incentivize getting off welfare/incentivize fucking around with the system for gibs if you just get them anyway, and lower admin costs as a result

2019-03-14 15:09:01 UTC  

The only catch is that there's no real proof that it works :^)

2019-03-14 15:09:20 UTC  

And even less proof that it would work at a measly 1k

2019-03-14 15:09:52 UTC  

that wouldn't even cover rent in the shitty neighbourhoods

2019-03-14 15:11:50 UTC  

If anything like UBI would be implemented there is no way all social security nets would be ended at the same time. The reasoning would be that to many people don't know how to manage their money and the government has to oversee and reallocate money for people in need.

2019-03-14 15:11:57 UTC  

@Lord Zedd where do you live? $1k would rent you a 3bed house where I am.

2019-03-14 15:12:07 UTC  

UBI would definitely incentivize moving to lower cost of living areas

2019-03-14 15:12:39 UTC  

You and your girlfriend can live like royalty on 2k guaranteed per month in some parts of America

2019-03-14 15:28:11 UTC  

@uncephalized seriously, I'd live like king with 1k in rent

2019-03-14 16:07:21 UTC  

inflation.......

2019-03-14 16:12:09 UTC  

plus increase in family destruction, plus decrease in labor supply. The experimenta have been done: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax

2019-03-14 16:12:23 UTC  

Here 1k would pay for your rent in less pricey areas and that's about it

2019-03-14 16:31:31 UTC  

Think about the impacts to markets under ubi, cheap consumer goods like tvs etc would come under huge demand in the first months, creating scarcity, which as mentioned above cause inflation, etc. And yet people will be hungry for food by the 15th of the month because of people dependency on school lunch programs and food stamps

2019-03-14 16:34:31 UTC  

The systems true value is in the removal of administrative overhead, which would require dismantling all old systems, could you imagine the backlash from people on ssi/ssd if you reduced their checks to 1k a month from a system they paid into all their lives

2019-03-14 16:36:18 UTC  

Also where would such a bill be listed as a federal responsibilty be in the constitution granted the 10th ammendment has never stopped them before

2019-03-14 16:38:37 UTC  

One huge problem with UBI, and you touched on this in your first comment, is that it’s a policy designed by responsible, intelligent people who have put themselves in other people’s shoes. The problem is you can’t design a program for responsible intelligent people who happen to be perpetually on welfare. I’m not claiming all poor people are dumb but if you live your entire life on welfare, decision making isn’t exactly your strong suit. Throwing a grand at people who can’t manage a nickel will only make their problems way worse

2019-03-14 16:42:05 UTC  

Especially if their standard of living already far exceeds 1k

2019-03-14 16:44:25 UTC  

I have friends in government housing on food stamps, snap, ssd, and medicaid that are certainly receiving more than 1k a month in benefits

2019-03-14 16:46:14 UTC  

Well one of the stronger arguments for UBI is that it doesn’t create a welfare trap

2019-03-14 16:46:48 UTC  

Getting a job will never end up in a lower standard of living on UBI. The problems outweigh the benefits though. We just need comprehensive entitlement reform

2019-03-14 16:47:02 UTC  

*Dan Crenshaw 2024*

2019-03-14 16:47:14 UTC  

Hey look, a fucking numbskull shilling this UBI nonsense

2019-03-14 16:47:40 UTC  

its bullshit, and yanggang is a leftist shill operation

2019-03-14 16:53:10 UTC  

Then which wealth distribution/social welfare programs get shut off. Like can we get rid of the department of education?

2019-03-14 16:54:25 UTC  

Also, removing "other welfare programs" wont help the cost much at all. UBI would cost trillions per year.

2019-03-14 16:55:06 UTC  

The reforms would more likely look like scaling our current programs based on income so your benefits decrease as your income increases but not as drastically as it does now