I mean, the real question is can his eyes get any further apart before they explode out of the side of his head?

You have no fucking idea. I just returned from the DPRC, and its aweful. I had a man covertly offer me straws from under the cash register in a checkou tline.

PAPER STRAWS

Yes.

Dude, everything is shit. If you go further south most of that area of LA is OK, but North Hollywood looks more like paraguay.

and I think Paraguay is better.

I went to a grocery store in NOHO that had 100% of its announcements on the weekdays in spanish.

The streets are cluttered with garbage and overturned shopping carts, Homless people are camping in every single underpass, and all the green areas between the road and freeway.

Yo hablo un pocito espanol pero its still unacceptable to live in the US and go some place and discover you just boarded a plane to a 3rd world country, except the hotels cost $200 a night.

I had to buy a visa to go places like NOHO.

damn, I forgot about that!

oh yeah, private security is fucking everywhere.

except they're just paul blarts because no one can have a gun.

oooooh fuck, I forgot. I'm also not black, and while I claim hispanic on forms, i'm actually half portugese.

which for some unknown fucking reason isn't 'hispanic'

which is why 'hispanic' isn't a race. Its a fake made up term for people who vote democrat, but come here illegally.

I've been rubbing mud on my skin so I can fit in. #blackface

now i understand governor northam, and forgive him.

LOL, I have to be careful, because if I own the libs too hard half my family might stop talking to me.

I guess they're mostly under 60...

what is that, the 183'rd trimester?

LOL, well I need to take a shower and go to my productive republican middle class job.

so I can pay for my mortgage, which I'm told is a fiction because millennials can't afford houses.

ever

@grant they're trying to race California to the bottom

But the real question is not when or how they'll collapse, the real question is will all the other 49 states be asked to pay off Illinois' debt.

American civil war 2 won't be fought over non-binary gender surgeries for 10 year olds, but over the question of who pays for California financing free healthcare for everyone in their state.

oy! av eww got a loicence for tha porn?!

You can't do anything about it now, you're disarmed sheep.

accept big brother into your life. and love him.

Its VERY IMPORTANT that you LOVE big brother.

We can freedom the shit out of people, but only if they're sufficiently brown.

get working on it.

Sargon the tradcon

Leftwing Atheism is a galaxy brain only religion.

I disagree. I think that every atheist essentially has a chip on their shoulder about Christianity.

any 'atheist' who isn't violently anti-christian is really an agnostic when you talk to them about it.

I've never met a true atheist who wasn't holding a grudge against a religion.

Beemann, would you consider your position that god does not exist, or that you have no proof that god does exist?

They are not equivalent statements.

God does not exist supposes proof.

God may not exist doesn't.

@Lord Zedd that depends on how you answer the decartes bargain.

although Descartes would disagree with that suggestion 😉

probably 😃

but generally people try to fill that religious hole in their heart. It happens eventually, usually after people experience some great event close to birth or death.

religion isn't always 'someone elses answer' but i agree that its a 'meaning hole'

but all methods of 'search for meaning' become religions. Including science.

I agree, which is why I'm religious 😄

my problem is when people argue that science is truth.

science is an opinion on the truth with good evidence, but like any opinion it can be wrong.

and any opinion based system is vulnerable to huxters and liars.

Even a repeated experiment is often highly conjecture based.

and relies on assumptions that may or may not be true.

for example you can repeat a lot of 'experiments' that work, but they work for reasons that DO NOT have to do with what you're proving.

^^^^

even if its 'my eyes work;

'

yes, but the process of challenge and retest isn't infalable either. For as much shit as we give the earth-centered view of the universe, they had mathematical proofs that it worked.

they just didn't have all the data until modern telescopes were built

LOL

its turtles all the way down

yes and no, imagine how much shit would go down if something fundamental like relativity were disproven?

Or if someone proved that gender is binary 😛

the numbers DO check out, but to oversimplify things, you can model 2 ( operation) 2 = 4 as 2+2=4, but you ALSO can model 2*2=4

there are alternative explainations for some things, but it would disrupt a lot of theories.

the reason why some theories struggle to usurp others is because they don't have a full answer for some things, but they might actually be right.

harder sciences deal with it better because they're closer to math.

softer sciences FAIL MISERABLY at this.

I really don't understand why people can't accept that Religious extremists from Saudi Arabia hate Jews and the US enough to plow airplanes into the WTC.

And that any jewish connection isn't coincidental because the muslims wanted to kill/attack jews.

This is the religion which has whole chapters dedicated to the reasons and methods behind their hatred of Jews.

Like people don't understand that the Muslim Brotherhood is a thinktank for how to kill Jews. Imagine the Heritage foundation except dedicated to the massacre of the Navajo nation or some shit.

@Lord Zedd The problem with the UBI isn't the UBI, its who's in charge of the UBI.

I once did some back-of-the-napkin calculations, and counting everyone on welfare as a recipient, and then every dollar of medicare, Social Security, and all other welfare programs designated as such by the Government, and it was somthing like $200,000 - $250,000 dollars to deliver $70,000 on average of benefits to every person on welfare anually.

Why does it cost over $100,000 to provide $70,000 in benefits? Because every single person needs a case worker, and that case worker needs a manager, and that manager needs chain of 3 other managers who report to the HHS secretary, and then THAT bureaucracy needs an OVERSIGHT bureaucracy.

when you create a welfare program you're not only creating a welfare program for people who need it, you're creating a parasitic government program that sucks blood off the host.

no, but there's a whole managment cluster for them too.

and then there's building costs

and those require maintenance people and electricity.

sure, but there are millions of people on those services.

and you're also a normal human.

like anything 20% of the people suck of 80% of the time.

also those programs are paying for pensions for those workers.

I did. I did the math, and unless I made an adding error (which is possible) its fucking mindblowing.

its been a while since I id it, it was like right after Obama's first term, I'll go crunch it again.

It might be worth it, that's a fair discussion.

but what I'm saying is that government solutions always cost more than just the giveaway money.

any attempt at UBI will inevitably cost way more than whatever you're just handing out.

because the government is morally and physically incapable of doing something efficiently.

A UBI should cost $10 a month for the AWS server that administers the database of every American with a bank account number who signs up for UBI.

but they're going to invent ways to make it more expensive.

that's a smidge utopian 😉

The best thing we can do is to tie welfare benefits to children not parents of children, and then reward families for remaining intact in obvious and measurable ways.

TBH, I think the only real problem society has is the breakdown of the family.

everything else is a symptom.

There's something to be said though that welfare encourages you to be a single mom

I've litterally met people who will say that they can't get married because xyz benefit would end

yes. And if you think that the live in culture is healthy for women I've got some swamp land to sell you in florida.