Message from @Tarbram
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Hoxha applies is the industrialized world while Maoism applies in the pre industrialized places of the world
Hmm, makes sense. Does that mean the China still could return to socialism? And this is the phase of capitalism? How do maoists see this?
No it can't but revisionist PSL thinks so.
I mean, it can but there would have to be some kind of cultural revolution or second socialist revolution to get rid of the bourgeoisie.
This is something that I still need to read about, but I must admit it's really intriguing about Maoism.
Mao did have the country turn into Socialism, New Democracy was very brief. Deng brought the Capitalism through pushing for special economic zones which were massively increased by Zimmin. Deng would describe what he did as a Capitalist stage with Two Stage Theory making it while Maoists would call it Revisionism. Maoists hate modern china and seek revolution.
Yeah, I expected that, and seems to the correct position
There are a lot of people within China, especially the youth sect of the official communist party, that are maoists and seek to return China to socialism.
I also have heard that Xi Jinping has started a program of intensifying and re-applying classes of Marxism in universities, but his intentions probably aren't really good
I am really looking forward to discover what Xi meant by "a return to Marxist roots" as he repeatedly said in speeches. I can almost feel more revisionism.
Even if Xi wanted to do that, it would fruitless form the top-down because huge swaths of bourgeois class members entered the party for decades.
I personally believe Deng did what was necessary to advance Industrialization and make the West dependent on China. I also see Xi Jinping's removal of all possible rivals (which are all of Zimmin's faction), his massive consolidation of power, and his father being one of Mao's closest allies to all be signs of a possible return to Maoist policies seeing that he would need China to be unified and need massive amounts of power to insure that none of the Capitalist Billionaires and Party Members loyal to them could try to stop this return into Maoism.
Well, it would not be a return into Maoism. China was never Maoist in the theoretical sense. Maoism was not developed until the 1980s, and in Peru.
By Maoist China most people mean China under Mao.
But that's what most MLMs want anyway, a return to socialism and the implementation of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism while shaving off his right deviations.
I could just be me being optimistic but I don't see any real reason for Xi to seize so much power and influence just to keep the status quo
Well, who knows, maybe it turns out all the revisionism since Deng was all a plan? lol
For real, though, I am skeptical, but it would be amazing.
I really doubt, personally, that Maoism would return to China under Xi. For one, the party was filled to the brim with multimillionaires and bourgeois elements, to the point where most of the party is under the control of bourgeois forces. Secondly, even if Xi consolidates his powers and has these good intentions, he would have to purge huge numbers of party members. It just wouldn't be possible for him to do this on his own, without some kind of cultural revolution, and it would most likely devastate the party in the short-term.
He's already purging people
He would have to purge more than half the party.
And part of Maoism is cultural revolution which with his current powers he could do. And purging lots of the Party could be done if he gained enough influence and removed heads of any opposition as he is doing
The PSL is of the opinion that the Chinese Communist Party can still reverse course, so you're not alone in believing this about Xi. But personally I tend to be extremely skeptical, and it seems idealistic (not in the philosophical meaning) to me.
Well you should be skeptical as should everyone but I honestly don't see why he would take risks, remove rivals and possible opposition who are all part of the faction that made China extremely Capitalistic, and gather so much power into himself without planning on doing something huge such as the return of Maoism
Well, if those are his intentions, I certainly hope he is successful.
Question: what is the communist relationship with music and how should it be formed?
"Every artist, everyone who considers himself an artist, has the right to create freely according to his ideal, independently of everything. However, we are Communists and we must not stand with folded hands and let chaos develop as it pleases. We must systemically guide this process and form its result." - Lenin
@Deleted User why do you ask questions on which you know the answers?
I was listening to classical and thinking: is this bourgeois?
Every matter is to be transformed but some will stay in history some will not.
Classics did stay
for a reason
Of its time