Message from @Mr. X

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2018-08-18 13:25:24 UTC  

Without creating a real system around them

2018-08-18 13:26:20 UTC  

Maybe he viewed the rigor of clear explanation and the creation of a philosophical system as freezing and killing ideas, which is what he accused classical philosophy of doing

2018-08-18 13:27:07 UTC  

What Nietzsche have you read?

2018-08-18 13:27:30 UTC  

Nothing yet, most of what I know, I've heard from Jordan Peterson.

2018-08-18 13:27:49 UTC  

I only just got nearly all the works yesterday

2018-08-18 13:27:53 UTC  

Yikes

2018-08-18 13:28:00 UTC  

Hm?

2018-08-18 13:29:26 UTC  

If you wanna have a good laugh, read *Twilight of the Idols* and *The Wagner Case*. Nobody escapes his insulting pen there

2018-08-18 13:30:22 UTC  

And I'd say Bergson is a great read too, the philosopher of duration

2018-08-18 13:30:47 UTC  

I guess the big difference is that N sees process as decadence while B sees it as positive creation

2018-08-18 13:31:24 UTC  

I'm not looking for a laugh. But what should I start with. What order exactly?

2018-08-18 13:32:55 UTC  

start with *Twilight of the Idols* and *Beyond Good and Evil*, they're the most accessible

2018-08-18 13:33:14 UTC  

Okay

2018-08-18 13:33:23 UTC  

or check your editions, the forewords probably have good counsel on that

2018-08-18 13:33:58 UTC  

Understood.

2018-08-18 13:34:08 UTC  

then *The Antichrist*, *Genealogy of Morality* and *Ecce Homo*

2018-08-18 13:34:28 UTC  

then you can read *Zarathustra*, the hardest

2018-08-18 13:35:14 UTC  

Oh yeah Zarathrustra. Im going to like that book.

2018-08-18 13:36:03 UTC  

then you have the smaller works, which can be read aside (read *The Wagner Case* and the 2nd *Untimely Meditation* with *Twilight of the Idols* on the matter of artistic decadence)

2018-08-18 13:37:05 UTC  

I wouldn't really trust Peterson on explaining philosophers though, he either twists their words to fit his agenda (like with Nietzsche) or says complete nonsense (like with Foucault and Derrida)

2018-08-18 13:37:21 UTC  

He doesnt have an agenda

2018-08-18 13:37:49 UTC  

You're right

2018-08-18 13:37:51 UTC  

Perhaps its just his interpretation, or you havent understood his point.

2018-08-18 13:38:00 UTC  

His only agenda is the way to the bank

2018-08-18 13:38:16 UTC  

No, his only agenda is to help people.

2018-08-18 13:38:26 UTC  

He's not doing this for the money, that much is clear

2018-08-18 13:38:47 UTC  

Yikes...

2018-08-18 13:38:55 UTC  

Hm?

2018-08-18 13:39:00 UTC  

I used to think so too

2018-08-18 13:39:09 UTC  

Until?

2018-08-18 13:39:15 UTC  

Is thay why he's now insisting on donations?

2018-08-18 13:39:26 UTC  

He doesnt insist on donations.

2018-08-18 13:39:27 UTC  

Check his Twitter account

2018-08-18 13:39:40 UTC  

He's a con man

2018-08-18 13:39:53 UTC  

Laughing all the way to the cheques his followers give him

2018-08-18 13:40:48 UTC  

He's not asking for donations, he's advertising his book.

2018-08-18 13:41:24 UTC  

Not surprised since its to help people

2018-08-18 13:41:56 UTC  

aswell as trying to sell tickets to lectures to help people.

2018-08-18 13:43:20 UTC  

He also twists words very skillfully and always returns onto semantic problems to evade issues. But I guess him being well-spoken can explain his popularity, just like all those other pseudo-intellectuals which attract TV spotlight nowadays

2018-08-18 13:43:41 UTC  

Words such as?

2018-08-18 13:44:13 UTC  

I dont watch tv. It's boring.