Message from @grackul
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Former Neo-Con -> Libertarian -> Alt-Right here. I started realizing that I didn't believe any of the racialist ideology and I was increasingly defensive of social programs. I've just been reading as much as I could on Marxism/Communism in the last week; I ordered Das Kapital and David Harvey's companion to it last night. I'm wondering, is there a branch of Socialism/Communism that isn't explicitly idpol?
every politics is identity politics
No
yes
my nation vs your nation
isn't identity politics?
Not everyone is nationalistic
Eg. Marxism
Where workers overthrow their masters independently of all nationality
It must constitute itself the nation, then it is somewhat nationalistic, though not the bourgeois sense of the word
yeah
but in marxism rich and ideological capitalists are the enemy
indentity politics is about establishing a group and the enemy of that group
of course it is
just look how MLs hate trotskyist
without criticizing his ideas
>pushes idpol
>also pushes non-sectarianism
sounds federal but okay
sectarianism is idpol in nutshell
identity politics is honestly pretty debatable for me
I dont have an opinion on it and I dont know if its in every form of politics
mkay
Orwell was /ourguy/
Cuckery
so Im researching leninism and I am having trouble with the idea of democratic centralism. It seems like a measure that makes sense in wartime or crisis but not afterwards, and I think after a revolution minority opinions in party debates should be more cared for. The people should not have to completely fall in line and unite behind an action that they dont support just because it won in a slim vote. It sounds like an authoritarian idea that makes sense only in the situation of the russian civil war. Anybody have thoughts on it? I am pretty uneducated so take that in mind
I get "unity in action" but the soviets didnt need to have that after the war, they could have allowed more democratic discourse
wtfrick
Orwell was reformist trash
he'd be a butt buddy of the DSA nowadays @Headshots
Well I see the DSA getting up off their ass and doing more than the anarchists of american or communists of america anytime soon.
It's easy to hold revolutionary ideas, it's another thing fighting for them.
the PC-USA is even worse
american communists are all LARPers, without exception
PC?
Oh