hello

I got a dm with an invite here

?

@Firefly thanks for the DM? if you dont mind me asking why tho?

how did u see me

?

you guys are leftists right?

So what is this server then

hmm lol okay as long as there are posadist memes

Young posadist comrade chases down reactionary scum

yeah pls no actual nazis tbh

fuck facists and facist apologists

If you help spread their ideas you are contributing to them

so I take it that you guys are less idpol than other servers but still mostly leftist? Thats the vibe im gettin

I just randomly got an invite

Socialism is based on empathy and facism is not that should be enough

its a sociopatic ideology

and toxic

yeah

I dont hate idpol

but I hate when it becomes more important than class struggle

But I understand others have different struggles

@Yu and Mika are you saying not all facists are bad? like is that your point cause the ideology is literally founded on nationalism and racial pride

@brokenmeteor I cant get onboard with it, I find it mostly filled with inflamatory assholes with personal issues. Human beings are inherently empathetic creatures and the more I have travelled the more I see that we are more alike than different. I cant stand the privatisation and the belief that certain individuals are somehow superior or deserve better

spelling rip

@ashoka Man you are only here to fuck with people

^^^

all you are doing is insulting ppl

shut up

He doesnt want to change our minds he wants to chestbeat which is like of course

Facism is honestly disgusting to me, I do not value the state I happend to be born in or some dumb bloodline which does not drastically make my mind different in any way

Its based on psuedoscience

and hatred

and strongmen chestbeaters

They are also literally only reaction based, they are just knee jerkers that think because some buzfeed video exists that there is some giant conspiracy by jews, liberals, or muslims to replace them. They also dont even understand how populations work and think they are being replaced by brown people despite birth rates stabilising as living standards increase and also that subsequent generations would be more secular living in the west

Isis exists because of western imperialism

any reformation movement of islam in the last 100 years was fucking raped

by western powers

because strongmen sell them oil

@Yu and Mika I cannot respect you if you think that this ideology has merit. I do draw the line and frankly I dont think these ideas are even worth debate, its like debating wether its a good philosophy to deport or kill my neighbors. It stems from a lack of understanding of others

@ashoka nationalism is rising because of the end of neoliberal bullshit and overblown psuedoscience about immigrants

well if you seriously believe in racial hierarchy I cannot take you seriously

its personally offensive

do you believe that the state should overpower the individual

I can debate that I geuss

*Guess

but

its abhorrent

I am not an anarchist

but

the failings of liberal democracy can be fixed without a capitalist system running them

^^^

To be honest heres what I see with these forums. I have been on quite a few in the last few months and its literally all just people bickering over which historical figure they like best and no praxis on either side. Nobody does anything and we all drown in academia

Why do you allow fascists here even, they are solely an inflammatory ideology that is brainwashed into dehumanizing the other. They don't do good discussion at all, and besides we are all fucking history nerds who dont do jack shit and are useless as fuck.

nice argument

prove my point more

@Yu and Mika Yeah I got an unironic monarchist friend who isn't just dehumanizing everyone else. IRL fascists are alot more polite because they cant just act like jewberg all the time without anonymity, but I think these forums are detrimental to mental health and also just useless academic shit.

dont you think they have human rights that ought not to be infringed upon

and that the lower working class is human like you?

but they arent human right?

@Yu and Mika What do you mean? The old days were feudalism and endless racism.

facism is worse, it values a single person and their own insecurities at the expense of everyone.

usually racial

ocassional

lol

@ashoka The amount of people required to pull off the level of conspiracy you believe in is laughable and unrealistic once you see how incompetent governments really are and how flawed the people that run them are. Jews are not exploiting its just not even based on reasonable evidence.

I think its based on them being forced into merchant positions by the church in the past

and creating a scapegoat

an easy answer

to complex problems

Its a fucking baby way to look at societal issues

just blame the big scary other

the evidence of it is overblown and exxagerated 90% of the time

@ashoka So can we admit then that its not a genetic trait

and that

it may be more likely based on outdated societal norms

or is it just easier

to lump em in a group

like another species

and assign traits

idiot

@ashoka They dont have any other nature than the way they were raised or their personal enviorment

they arent aliens

You arent using science

for your ideas

you are using vague exaggerations and scapegoats

But there is no scientific evidence for that

races having signifigant mental differences

its societal

you just made it up

so its easier to dehumanize

you are looking at a complex problem

and blaming the easiest answer

cause some "skeptic" on youtube

told you so

Go ahead give me a vaguely racist stereotype

where did you get it

and why do you think most credible scientists have debunked things like racial supremacy

why do you have to go to fringe outlets

is it because a conspiracy