I just couldn’t do it anymore. With all the bullshit. There are plenty out there who would enforce these unconstitutional laws because of a psyche k

Unfortunately a lot of cops are willing to do fuck shit just for that living

Like a lot of paramedics only see their job as a wage, which is fucked. These careers are way more than a wage

I truly want to maintain law and order while attempting to improve the community I work in, but at the same time if they want me to enforce a law that breaks another law I would have to refuse as I have too much respect for the Constitution and myself to break it.

I hold skepticism over cops and sheriffs because I wonder if they'll value their paychecks and pensions over the constitution

I guess we'll see in VA if they'll back down and cave into Northam's demands

A lot are stepping up, and seeing that makes me hopeful

@Yoda'sTightAss sounds like you are LE...do you ever use probable cause? If so, without a specific warrant, you violate the 4th...cops violate all kinds of rights all kinds of ways, simply because it's policy...most of it isn't even law...

Everyone's done some fuck shit

I'm not a cop, I want to go into it, probable cause has been deemed constitutional by the United States supreme Court in several cases, it's kind like how people think a cop can't ask you to get in or out of a vehicle but due to the Pennsylvania VS Mims ruling an officer can ask someone to get in or out of the vehicle

If you've ever been to prison or worked in one you'd see fuck shit

I disagree...the 4th is very clear...probable cause AND specific warrant naming people, places, and things subject to search and seizure...a court just ruled the gun ban for tomorrow in VA was good? So is it right?

Slavery was legal...segregation was legal...killing Jews was legal...

Which court

And yeah, it was, no longer is

Post proof in current events

Not sure what level court, but it was brought up probably in circuit or appeals court...next level after said they didn't have enough info to rule on it and let it stand

Yoda seems to like the taste of leather to me....

Also I believe rulings pertaining to federal law (the Constitution) should only be ruled on by federal courts, state courts have no business in federal law

This was VA supreme court...posting article in current events

I believe they should all stay the hell out of it

woah woah let's cool it

I'll give it a read, but that court is probably stacked with the governor's scumbag donors

Right, so if this court can be on the wrong side, what's to say the supreme court isn't on ruling about probable cause...the bill of rights spells it out very plain...

The only ruling needed regarding the constitution was done the day it was signed...all else beyond that is an infringement

I might argue 13 was pretty good

and the bill of rights

The Constitution is vauge and dated, we need people with a firm understanding of the law to interpret it so our rights are not infringed by the government or by those the law is supposed to protect us from

That makes sense...but the constitution is no there to guarantee or protect our rights...it is there as a dire warning to any participants in government that would trample our rights...as has been the case for a long time

It was made vague in places on purpose...to limit specifics against the individual...it is not dated at all though...

The law doesnt protect anyone...it convicts people after the fact

Language is dated, over time interpretation of specific words and phrases change

Right...interpretation...it is not meant for interpretation, that gives party to bias and leads to what we have presently

It is meant to restrict government...and the gubment has been long unrestricted

I hope you choose another career friend...

Im choosing this career because I want to protect others from those who wish them harm. I don't give a fuck if people hate me for it.

Ok fair enough and I know several that feel the same way...you already admitted you agreed the 4th doesn't stand and a cop can arbitrarily violate someone's person or privacy based on a supreme court ruling...so riddle me this...

mate I am just throwing this out there

Why is the safety of a cop paramount to a citizen's? Why does the cop get to point his gun at me for his safety, but vise versa and I'm a criminal?

maybe this could alienate a potential ally and drive schisms in a potentially unified front and therefore might not be the greatest idea ever?

What's not? 🤔 having a little debate on the debate channel?