Message from @johnnyConrad
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More than the officers, I'd bet
I'd guess that at worst we get a Boston Massarce or Bloody Sunday kinda deal. Not enough to spark an actual conflict but enough to piss people off
I think if anyone gets shot it will spark national policies and/or registration/confiscation at the least
Any officers participating in that shit are fuck bags anyways. I'm LEO and fuck that. I'm sticking to my oath.
I want to be a LEO and fuck that
I used too. But honestly fuck it now.
I’d get fired for not violating my oath
I know cops get a lot of hate but most are trying to just make a living.
I just couldn’t do it anymore. With all the bullshit. There are plenty out there who would enforce these unconstitutional laws because of a psyche k
Unfortunately a lot of cops are willing to do fuck shit just for that living
Like a lot of paramedics only see their job as a wage, which is fucked. These careers are way more than a wage
I truly want to maintain law and order while attempting to improve the community I work in, but at the same time if they want me to enforce a law that breaks another law I would have to refuse as I have too much respect for the Constitution and myself to break it.
I hold skepticism over cops and sheriffs because I wonder if they'll value their paychecks and pensions over the constitution
I guess we'll see in VA if they'll back down and cave into Northam's demands
A lot are stepping up, and seeing that makes me hopeful
@Yoda'sTightAss sounds like you are LE...do you ever use probable cause? If so, without a specific warrant, you violate the 4th...cops violate all kinds of rights all kinds of ways, simply because it's policy...most of it isn't even law...
Everyone's done some fuck shit
I'm not a cop, I want to go into it, probable cause has been deemed constitutional by the United States supreme Court in several cases, it's kind like how people think a cop can't ask you to get in or out of a vehicle but due to the Pennsylvania VS Mims ruling an officer can ask someone to get in or out of the vehicle
If you've ever been to prison or worked in one you'd see fuck shit
I disagree...the 4th is very clear...probable cause AND specific warrant naming people, places, and things subject to search and seizure...a court just ruled the gun ban for tomorrow in VA was good? So is it right?
Which court
And yeah, it was, no longer is
Post proof in current events
Not sure what level court, but it was brought up probably in circuit or appeals court...next level after said they didn't have enough info to rule on it and let it stand
Yoda seems to like the taste of leather to me....
Also I believe rulings pertaining to federal law (the Constitution) should only be ruled on by federal courts, state courts have no business in federal law
This was VA supreme court...posting article in current events
I believe they should all stay the hell out of it
woah woah let's cool it
I'll give it a read, but that court is probably stacked with the governor's scumbag donors
Right, so if this court can be on the wrong side, what's to say the supreme court isn't on ruling about probable cause...the bill of rights spells it out very plain...
The only ruling needed regarding the constitution was done the day it was signed...all else beyond that is an infringement
I might argue 13 was pretty good
and the bill of rights
The Constitution is vauge and dated, we need people with a firm understanding of the law to interpret it so our rights are not infringed by the government or by those the law is supposed to protect us from
That makes sense...but the constitution is no there to guarantee or protect our rights...it is there as a dire warning to any participants in government that would trample our rights...as has been the case for a long time
It was made vague in places on purpose...to limit specifics against the individual...it is not dated at all though...
The law doesnt protect anyone...it convicts people after the fact
Language is dated, over time interpretation of specific words and phrases change
Right...interpretation...it is not meant for interpretation, that gives party to bias and leads to what we have presently