it's in an unsustainable decline and we need to stabilize it and overcome the consequences of climate change

that's fairly optimistic, capitalism is very good at making slaves

Its already too late though, the damage is done permanently to our planet

and freeing slaves takes more than to break their chains

It's even better at hiding its slavery

we can mitigate the warming through control of carbon emissions still

but yes many things are already going to create huge problems

that's exactly why it will be hard to free the slaves, they didn't even know they were in chains

and then you ask them to give up some of their wealth and comfort to other people?
how would you deal with the inevetable counter-revolutions?

Would it be considered a revolution if it's against the interests of the majority?

Then it's more like a coup

Or a revolt

If you try to impose the old system again, or create a new autocracy

something like that would be a counter-revolution

@Deleted User Read rosa luxemburgs reform or revolution

this was exactly the issue they were discussing in the e̶a̶r̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶e̶i̶m̶a̶r̶ ̶r̶e̶p̶u̶b̶l̶i̶c̶ 1899

and she gave a fantastic retort to that kind of thinking

~~Do I smell Bordiga?~~

Her analysis is eerily applicable today i found

many of the things she writes about you can see first hand happening today

what does that have to do with anything @PugSlugger

if you think that then i find that kinda sad tbh

or you're just trolling, allright then

or we just dont care to engage with arguments that have no substance and would require you to have actual knowledge of marx and the argument you are attacking

I read the whole thing

it has nothing to do with money

the market economy is the exploitative part

not the paying the worker less than he makes

you don't have to force people to pay anything for the goods you create

if you don't rely on exchange to acquire your neccesities

only in a market economy friend

it's not the only way things can be

A market economy is a system whereby you exchange your labor power for money which allows you to purchase your necessities in a free market

but the only free thing about the market is who you buy from, you are not free to NOT use the market

maybe if everyone calls your posts bait then it's time to reconsider your life choices

yeet

"stupid commies stop calling everything I post bait"
"maybe you should think about why they call it bait"
"FUCK OFF NIGGER"

Capitalism evolved around the early enlightenment period i believe as cities became more important trade and financial centers and a class of wealthy and influential merchants and investors emerged and more and more working people migrated to the cities.

truly intellectual

Then what is your answer

enlighten us, oh big-brain man