Message from @Shabeer
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deep down
all it is is your loved ones making you happy
so losing them is hard
involountary egoists view them as higher
that's what egoism is about
not seeing anything higher than yourself
because only then are you free
it makes you happy but you wont be happy if you're dead
if they are dead you won't be
if you are dead hapiness sadness don't exist
Exactly
So there is no egotistical point of killing yourself for others
for an egoist probably not
people that don't recognise themselves as egoists yes
because they are following a lie
but even egoists would kill themselves
depression,...
it all comes down to you
or in reality they know their loved ones lives could be better
because theyre not dead
no
why
egoists don't believe in morality
because altruism doesnt exist according to egoists
it would be out of accordance with their moral framework
normative ethics?
we dont have to use moral and immoral if you dont want to
well egoists can't even preform an altruisit action in the first place
Why is that
altruism doesn't exist
yes
Yeah
there are involuntary and volountary egoists
being involountary isnt immoral
it's just annoying lol
egoists might call you spooked
if you do it
but yeah
I don't see how they could hold that position. If someone sacrifices themselves in order to for example feed their children to which they die of starvation