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Again that doesnt explain people dying for others
especially atheists
atheists follow good causes all the time
look at college students
shouting about racism
yes but not when they want to die for their loved ones
and hate speech
dying for loved ones is because you love them
having them die
but you living would be too hard for you
so you prefer to just die
No thats not why they die
they're able to live without them but dont want them dying
what then
because they view their loved ones higher than them
of value
yes
but
deep down
all it is is your loved ones making you happy
involountary egoists view them as higher
that's what egoism is about
not seeing anything higher than yourself
because only then are you free
it makes you happy but you wont be happy if you're dead
if they are dead you won't be
if you are dead hapiness sadness don't exist
Exactly
So there is no egotistical point of killing yourself for others
for an egoist probably not
people that don't recognise themselves as egoists yes
because they are following a lie
but even egoists would kill themselves
depression,...
it all comes down to you
or in reality they know their loved ones lives could be better
because theyre not dead
IF an egoist were to perform an altruistic action that would be immoral no?
no
why