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2018-08-23 12:23:40 UTC  

No thats not why they die

2018-08-23 12:23:52 UTC  

they're able to live without them but dont want them dying

2018-08-23 12:23:53 UTC  

what then

2018-08-23 12:24:06 UTC  

because they view their loved ones higher than them

2018-08-23 12:24:12 UTC  

of value

2018-08-23 12:24:16 UTC  

yes

2018-08-23 12:24:18 UTC  

but

2018-08-23 12:24:21 UTC  

deep down

2018-08-23 12:24:33 UTC  

all it is is your loved ones making you happy

2018-08-23 12:24:37 UTC  

so losing them is hard

2018-08-23 12:24:58 UTC  

involountary egoists view them as higher

2018-08-23 12:25:09 UTC  

that's what egoism is about

2018-08-23 12:25:17 UTC  

not seeing anything higher than yourself

2018-08-23 12:25:34 UTC  

because only then are you free

2018-08-23 12:25:40 UTC  

it makes you happy but you wont be happy if you're dead

2018-08-23 12:25:55 UTC  

if they are dead you won't be

2018-08-23 12:26:10 UTC  

if you are dead hapiness sadness don't exist

2018-08-23 12:26:20 UTC  

Exactly

2018-08-23 12:26:38 UTC  

So there is no egotistical point of killing yourself for others

2018-08-23 12:27:06 UTC  

for an egoist probably not

2018-08-23 12:27:19 UTC  

people that don't recognise themselves as egoists yes

2018-08-23 12:27:26 UTC  

because they are following a lie

2018-08-23 12:27:50 UTC  

but even egoists would kill themselves

2018-08-23 12:27:53 UTC  

depression,...

2018-08-23 12:28:01 UTC  

it all comes down to you

2018-08-23 12:28:19 UTC  

or in reality they know their loved ones lives could be better

2018-08-23 12:28:25 UTC  

because theyre not dead

2018-08-23 12:28:25 UTC  

IF an egoist were to perform an altruistic action that would be immoral no?

2018-08-23 12:28:35 UTC  

no

2018-08-23 12:28:40 UTC  

why

2018-08-23 12:28:53 UTC  

egoists don't believe in morality

2018-08-23 12:28:57 UTC  

because altruism doesnt exist according to egoists

2018-08-23 12:28:58 UTC  

it would be out of accordance with their moral framework

2018-08-23 12:29:03 UTC  

normative ethics?

2018-08-23 12:29:26 UTC  

we dont have to use moral and immoral if you dont want to

2018-08-23 12:29:33 UTC  

well egoists can't even preform an altruisit action in the first place

2018-08-23 12:29:40 UTC  

Why is that

2018-08-23 12:29:53 UTC  

@Mr. X so everyone is an egoist in their eyes?

2018-08-23 12:29:53 UTC  

altruism doesn't exist

2018-08-23 12:29:56 UTC  

yes

2018-08-23 12:30:11 UTC  

Yeah