Sleep man. sleep always makes plane rides easier on me

Coming from a guy that HATES plane rides

I just landed at San Fran

Lay over time

It's like 10 or 11 back home

And 8am here.

@tacticaltrap Good luck bro..... it's 07:56 here, AM yeeeeesh man...

@Foxhound what the fuck do y'all know about immigration

I know we have quotas in place and that it takes a fair bit to become a citizen

@TheButcherHooks that's right. It's ridiculously expensive, extremely difficult (even under Obama), a total nightmare some times when trying to communicate with social workers, and numerous people are rejected every year

Now open borders are a horrible idea

But this shit? Fam what we got in place now is just fucked up

Not to mention foreign intervention (not just from the US, but from other nations like Russia, China, etc) has been causing horrible instability, poverty, and chaos in many developing nations all over the world, and naturally, they're flocking to us

You can thank Truman and JFK for those laws and nightmares of burrecratic hell that new immigrants must go through

Couldn't agree more. Always liked Kennedy a lot, but one thing I will say I fully disagreed with him on was making bureaucracy worse on immigrants. Same for Truman.

Thing is, tbh. we needa start taking care of our own homeless and citizens before we worry about outsiders.

for christ sake, we give billions of dollars to shitstains like (((Israel))) and other countries that don't do jack fuckin' shit for us... I dunno man.

Sorry if people don't agree....

Yee

Well I'll be the first one to tell you we give out far too much in foreign aid, and although I don't particularly harbor much of a resentment for (((them))), I will say that I can at least agree they don't need our money. Fuck that. They aren't impoverished. I'll also agree that we need to take care of our own too; homelessness, veterans, healthcare, and especially infrastructure. I don't hear enough people talkin' about it, and its fuckin important. But I also believe that we can reduce bureaucracy in a lot of areas and one of them is immigration

I thought I lost yall for a minute

hey

@Foxhound and quite frankly, I think it's pretty fucked up that you find it funny that they stopped a woman's labor process just to dump her back over the border. I've seen plenty of twisted shit in my time up close and personal, and I can say with authority that's cruel

Forgive me for being naive and unstudied,but what is going on in Mexico that causes such mass migration other than usual drug cartel bullshit

Wasnt there something a while back when this massive migration moved towards the border and the trucks had the Israeli flag or some shit ? And wasnt that used in the press to cover up some other shit like the Las Vegas shooter or something

Immigration is a complex issue, especially for the US. First off yes most of foreign aid monies should be cut back or ended alltogether. I say we have Soverign borders and turn way all those who are illegal, regardless. To overhaul the immigration process is almost a necessity, maybe do away with the quota system, but institute a values test to see if new immigrants mesh well with the current population. I kind of like the Australian immigration system that has a clear, but difficult path to citizenship. If we are to take in immigrants it should be bolster our country, not as a charity. Special exemptions for legitimate asylum seekers of course

@Thomatorr, King of Ohio a combination of violence, economic instability (which there is substantial evidence that suggests it was caused by NAFTA), lack of "honest", good paying jobs, no workers rights in most places, etc

I'm sorry but theres healthcare in mexico. She was deliberately breaking the law by trying to cross the border and have the child here so that it would have American citizenship. Our duty is to Americans. Not foreigners with no respect for laws.

As cruel as it is, Im siding with Vlad here

I saw that headline and I wondered if that isnt some orchestrated shit to rally Leftist minds

@Foxhound tell me something, would you have said the same thing if she had been German?

These things always work in several directions and its sad to even doubt a pregnant woman but I see no yield for ruthlessness in the cabal

If it were up to me, the military would be occupying the border and killing anyone who dared try and cross illegally. Americans MUST protect American interest and this entire article reeks of a rally for lefties to lose their shit.

Yes. I would have if the German woman was illegally entering the united states.

even ME

?

@Foxhound well at least you stand by your principles regardless of skin color I'll give you that

*Anyone*

Like I have an issue with the Russian women who take vacations here to give birth so the kid will have dual citizenship. thats blatant abuse of birthright citizenship that we have

And they're very wealthy to boot

I can agree that's not okay

Never heard of it, but nothing surprises me really anymore

So what would be your suggested fix then? because the USA has taken in more immigrants than any other country in history. And this current system will eventually cause the whole thing to collapse, or otherwise become a different country with different value altogether