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@Foxhound and quite frankly, I think it's pretty fucked up that you find it funny that they stopped a woman's labor process just to dump her back over the border. I've seen plenty of twisted shit in my time up close and personal, and I can say with authority that's cruel

Forgive me for being naive and unstudied,but what is going on in Mexico that causes such mass migration other than usual drug cartel bullshit

Wasnt there something a while back when this massive migration moved towards the border and the trucks had the Israeli flag or some shit ? And wasnt that used in the press to cover up some other shit like the Las Vegas shooter or something

Immigration is a complex issue, especially for the US. First off yes most of foreign aid monies should be cut back or ended alltogether. I say we have Soverign borders and turn way all those who are illegal, regardless. To overhaul the immigration process is almost a necessity, maybe do away with the quota system, but institute a values test to see if new immigrants mesh well with the current population. I kind of like the Australian immigration system that has a clear, but difficult path to citizenship. If we are to take in immigrants it should be bolster our country, not as a charity. Special exemptions for legitimate asylum seekers of course

@Thomatorr, King of Ohio a combination of violence, economic instability (which there is substantial evidence that suggests it was caused by NAFTA), lack of "honest", good paying jobs, no workers rights in most places, etc

I'm sorry but theres healthcare in mexico. She was deliberately breaking the law by trying to cross the border and have the child here so that it would have American citizenship. Our duty is to Americans. Not foreigners with no respect for laws.

As cruel as it is, Im siding with Vlad here

I saw that headline and I wondered if that isnt some orchestrated shit to rally Leftist minds

@Foxhound tell me something, would you have said the same thing if she had been German?

These things always work in several directions and its sad to even doubt a pregnant woman but I see no yield for ruthlessness in the cabal

If it were up to me, the military would be occupying the border and killing anyone who dared try and cross illegally. Americans MUST protect American interest and this entire article reeks of a rally for lefties to lose their shit.

Yes. I would have if the German woman was illegally entering the united states.

even ME

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@Foxhound well at least you stand by your principles regardless of skin color I'll give you that

*Anyone*

Like I have an issue with the Russian women who take vacations here to give birth so the kid will have dual citizenship. thats blatant abuse of birthright citizenship that we have

And they're very wealthy to boot

I can agree that's not okay

Never heard of it, but nothing surprises me really anymore

So what would be your suggested fix then? because the USA has taken in more immigrants than any other country in history. And this current system will eventually cause the whole thing to collapse, or otherwise become a different country with different value altogether

@AKAlexei don't get me wrong. I would far rather have Germans and Europeans coming here and having children. However, the sovereignty of borders must be defended at all costs and with all means including sheer violence. If I had my way, militias armed and equipped with assault rifles would guard and patrol the borders. Illegals would be given one chance to gtfo before they fired.

My issue is that the illegal immigration issue is getting clouded in a lot of bullshit. You take a group of Central and South American immigrants; at least 80% of em, maybe even 90% these days are crossing the border illegally just so that way they can start the LEGAL process of applying for citizenship or (more popular now because of what's happening in countries all across CA and SA) political asylum. Now I will tell you right now, when applying for political asylum, doesn't matter if you're a Frenchman who's doing it in Switzerland, a Venezuelan doing it here in the US; it's always easier to apply for political asylum from WITHIN the country you're applying for political asylum from. Trying to do it from an embassy is difficult, as is trying to do anything from a satellite government office is, and think about it; why would you try to apply for political asylum from the US through your OWN government? If you're applying for political asylum, chances are your government sucks and probably would shoot you for trying to leave (prime example; Venezuela). Now back to that original immigrant group example, you're gonna have 15-19% of em who are gonna be migrant workers; harmless, honest, hardworking good people who just can't find honest, LEGAL work in their home countries that actually pays them a salary they can live on, so they cross the border, work, get paid, and then they go home. And they work jobs that 99.99% of American citizens don't want or can't afford to live on (keep in mind, $4 to us might seem like nothing but to them, that's a decent day's pay). And the last of those immigrants aren't immigrants; they're drug dealers, criminals trying to escape prosecution, etc.

There is this image of these people, the "foreign horde", the "invaders" that I am just sick and tired of hearing about. Fuckin' Juan ain't tryna invade shit except his wife's pussy after he gets back from working landscaping in El Paso for the summer my nigga

Except with how broken the border is now there's a record number of immigrants from Africa illegally entering through the southern border. like several groups of hundreds have been caught. Its easier for them to raise a few thousand, fly to a South American country, then march a thousand miles into the US

Bullshit

And that's true

@thedarkness05

Very true

Theres a shit load of illegals where I live. Half of them are legitimate migrant farmers and the other half are literal dealers for the city

@Foxhound well you can thank your government for that friend, because they're the ones who keep the drug war going

You have no one to blame but the good ol' USA

Don't give me that "They just want the American dream" bullshit. They send most of their money back to Mexico, further destabilizing the US economy. Yes some of them do come here simply to work. But a number of them are criminals, rapists, and dealers.

Right because they tooooootally never chose to get into dealing 🙄

So what I suggest is a total lockdown of the border for a year, sort out all the shit that needs to be done, maybe grant amnesty and citizenship to those here with a clear expiry window to apply, then strictly enforce the Visa system. You go past a day, you have ICE dragging you back with a permanant bar on your name

@Foxhound sending $500 for 3 months wages to your fuckin' family isn't destabilizing shit dude, but if you really believe sending money outside the US is destabilizing, how about we talk about the billionaires who send trillions of dollars out of the US to their offshore bank accounts

I'm sure the ones that raped and killed Americans would love to hear its Uncle Sam's fault. Maybe that'll grant the families closure.

Again: Bullshit. These fuckers are in my store shelling out hundreds of dollars for iPhones, apple watches, smart phones, Jordan's, airpods

Ok but the Drug war is an issue. It does contribute to the shithole most of those countries are

Don't try that moral high road shit with me Konot.