Message from @Mikey

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2019-12-23 19:57:27 UTC  

Why can’t you post fucking pictures

2019-12-23 19:57:31 UTC  

In this stupid channel

2019-12-23 19:57:56 UTC  

it was stolen from a train station while i was 70 miles away working, theres not even any vague potential for that to have been a hate crime, but they asked anyway - and people have been trained to understand it's easy victim points and will get treated more seriously

2019-12-23 19:58:17 UTC  

Yes yes your anecdotes and theory are relevant I’m sure

2019-12-23 19:58:31 UTC  

But the stats show a steady increase over the past 5 years

2019-12-23 19:58:40 UTC  

thats an actual experience as opposed to your bias against brexit voters

2019-12-23 19:58:53 UTC  

As opposed to me looking real figures

2019-12-23 19:58:59 UTC  

At real*

2019-12-23 19:59:05 UTC  

you assume that hate incidents have increased in real terms despite the bar being lowered to the lowest possible point

2019-12-23 19:59:13 UTC  

Smh

2019-12-23 19:59:25 UTC  

If the bar had been lowered to lowest possible level

2019-12-23 19:59:33 UTC  

which it has, it's perception based

2019-12-23 19:59:40 UTC  

There wouldn’t be a steady increase without an actual increase in hate crimes

2019-12-23 19:59:44 UTC  

So either way I’m right

2019-12-23 20:00:03 UTC  

Bit circular that

2019-12-23 20:00:09 UTC  

Well it’s common sense

2019-12-23 20:00:45 UTC  

1) make it very easy, 2) encourage people to use it. that will obviously raise figures despite not being representative of the country becoming more 'hateful'

2019-12-23 20:01:02 UTC  

If the bar is already at its lowest and their is no increase in crimes then it should be flat

2019-12-23 20:01:05 UTC  

But it’s not flat

2019-12-23 20:01:18 UTC  

Urgo, obviously there are more hate crimes...

2019-12-23 20:01:28 UTC  

PEP moving away? Fantastic! Another traitor gone <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

2019-12-23 20:02:55 UTC  

you're missing the point that people are being encouraged to report things as hate incidents

2019-12-23 20:03:24 UTC  

Smh

2019-12-23 20:03:25 UTC  

-even though they arent- because -its perception based so you can say whatever you fucking like- knowing that the police then have to treat it more seriously

2019-12-23 20:03:31 UTC  

hence hate incident parking disputes

2019-12-23 20:04:12 UTC  

We should just decriminalise hate crimes

2019-12-23 20:04:16 UTC  

You’ve just ignored what I said

2019-12-23 20:04:40 UTC  

Only charge people that actually commit crimes, We don't need to further complicate everything by also charging them with a hate crime

2019-12-23 20:04:49 UTC  

you're saying the figures have gone up, but the figures are based on encouragement of reporting almost anything as a hate incident

2019-12-23 20:06:22 UTC  

plus people these days are more easily offended, and its easy for a poc to scream racist at a whitey

2019-12-23 20:06:45 UTC  

at the same time more and more things people say are being classed as unacceptable - a moving target, hence we see someone getting hounded out of a job and then losing a court battle over it after stating a scientific fact

2019-12-23 20:07:13 UTC  

The figures have gone up, by a barely significant margin tbh

2019-12-23 20:07:19 UTC  

it's all bullshit, and especially the perception based element has to go

2019-12-23 20:07:37 UTC  

Hate crimes should be scrapped tbh

2019-12-23 20:07:41 UTC  

can someone direct me to where i can find what the current definition of a hate crime is?

2019-12-23 20:07:44 UTC  

saying that, if they included hate crimes by poc, those figures would surge up more

2019-12-23 20:07:51 UTC  

is there a page on gov.uk

2019-12-23 20:07:57 UTC  

yes there is

2019-12-23 20:08:29 UTC  

Also, Britain isn't racist, no matter if the so called hate crimes have risen from 500 to 550

2019-12-23 20:08:41 UTC  

It's the most welcoming nation on the planet

2019-12-23 20:09:02 UTC  

PEP is just in a London bubble