Message from @PureEvilPie

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2019-12-23 19:50:42 UTC  

Let's just wait until the end of bojos premiership and see what they become from that

2019-12-23 19:50:43 UTC  

i'm not sure he's properly researched his destination

2019-12-23 19:52:36 UTC  

It’s worse seeing your home degrade

2019-12-23 19:53:04 UTC  

For example, I will most likely move to Singapore in the next 5 years. I know socially they are worse than the UK

2019-12-23 19:53:15 UTC  

But the UK changing affects me more personally

2019-12-23 19:53:21 UTC  

that guy on the radio has swallowed that "spike in hate crime" bullshit

2019-12-23 19:53:34 UTC  

Why is it bullshit?

2019-12-23 19:53:56 UTC  

have you given even a cursory glance at what passes as hate crime these days?

2019-12-23 19:54:40 UTC  

They have increased under broadly the same definitions

2019-12-23 19:55:08 UTC  

the guy is Irish, do you buy the notion that he is at risk of so much hate that he ought to leave the country?

2019-12-23 19:55:12 UTC  

here let me share an example. in cambridge after a FOI request, we found that a parking dispute had been registered as a hate incident.

2019-12-23 19:55:22 UTC  

Crafty read what I put

2019-12-23 19:55:40 UTC  

I’m not at risk, but I’m dissappointed in the UK

2019-12-23 19:56:20 UTC  

the bar has been lowered to the point where hate crime is 1) purely based on perception, and 2) the police solicit it and actually prompt people to ask if something is

2019-12-23 19:56:28 UTC  

yeah ok so you have your own reasons. so far as the guy on LBC i am not buying it

2019-12-23 19:56:34 UTC  

It has increased year on year

2019-12-23 19:56:41 UTC  

The definitions don’t change much year on year

2019-12-23 19:56:48 UTC  

And they increased at a steady rate

2019-12-23 19:56:53 UTC  

i experienced that myself, when my bike was stolen they asked if it was potentially a hate incident based on my sexuality or race

2019-12-23 19:57:27 UTC  

Why can’t you post fucking pictures

2019-12-23 19:57:31 UTC  

In this stupid channel

2019-12-23 19:57:56 UTC  

it was stolen from a train station while i was 70 miles away working, theres not even any vague potential for that to have been a hate crime, but they asked anyway - and people have been trained to understand it's easy victim points and will get treated more seriously

2019-12-23 19:58:17 UTC  

Yes yes your anecdotes and theory are relevant I’m sure

2019-12-23 19:58:31 UTC  

But the stats show a steady increase over the past 5 years

2019-12-23 19:58:40 UTC  

thats an actual experience as opposed to your bias against brexit voters

2019-12-23 19:58:53 UTC  

As opposed to me looking real figures

2019-12-23 19:58:59 UTC  

At real*

2019-12-23 19:59:05 UTC  

you assume that hate incidents have increased in real terms despite the bar being lowered to the lowest possible point

2019-12-23 19:59:13 UTC  

Smh

2019-12-23 19:59:25 UTC  

If the bar had been lowered to lowest possible level

2019-12-23 19:59:33 UTC  

which it has, it's perception based

2019-12-23 19:59:40 UTC  

There wouldn’t be a steady increase without an actual increase in hate crimes

2019-12-23 19:59:44 UTC  

So either way I’m right

2019-12-23 20:00:03 UTC  

Bit circular that

2019-12-23 20:00:09 UTC  

Well it’s common sense

2019-12-23 20:00:45 UTC  

1) make it very easy, 2) encourage people to use it. that will obviously raise figures despite not being representative of the country becoming more 'hateful'

2019-12-23 20:01:02 UTC  

If the bar is already at its lowest and their is no increase in crimes then it should be flat

2019-12-23 20:01:05 UTC  

But it’s not flat

2019-12-23 20:01:18 UTC  

Urgo, obviously there are more hate crimes...

2019-12-23 20:01:28 UTC  

PEP moving away? Fantastic! Another traitor gone <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

2019-12-23 20:02:55 UTC  

you're missing the point that people are being encouraged to report things as hate incidents