Message from @Storin

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2019-12-30 22:53:03 UTC  

Fucked *

2019-12-30 22:53:28 UTC  

People like you are the problem with the world dude....

2019-12-30 22:53:33 UTC  

Why

2019-12-30 22:53:38 UTC  

Because I don’t agree with you

2019-12-30 22:53:51 UTC  

Would rather break a system over an individual than try to work around it and minimalise it

2019-12-30 22:53:58 UTC  

throwing the baby out with the bath water or some shit

2019-12-30 22:54:12 UTC  

You guys do realise the death penalty doesn't lead straight to death, right? It's not a matter of days before death. It's years of retrials and double, triple checking to make sure they have the right guy.

2019-12-30 22:54:25 UTC  

> Some of you will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

2019-12-30 22:54:32 UTC  

The bottom line is if I threw out odds of 99% to 1% for nearly everyone here you can bet your ass they would take the 99%

2019-12-30 22:54:38 UTC  

Because those are extremely good odds

2019-12-30 22:54:52 UTC  

Yes but there’s still so many cases of innocent people getting killed it’s more then 99%-1%

2019-12-30 22:55:01 UTC  

Now if we can get it 99.9% to 0.1% that is extremely good, but there will always be the possibility that someone innocent gets killed

2019-12-30 22:55:05 UTC  

I’ll need to find the us death penalty stats I saw

2019-12-30 22:55:14 UTC  

It’s more like 10-20 percent

2019-12-30 22:55:16 UTC  

if it was going to come back it would need to be overhauled and nothing like the US. the method (unnecessarily expensive and inefficient) and death row (15-20 years on average?)

2019-12-30 22:55:23 UTC  

For the same reason vaccinations cant state with 100% certainty that they work, because it is possible that one fails to work etc

2019-12-30 22:55:39 UTC  

But 99.9% is still extremely good odds

2019-12-30 22:56:03 UTC  

Anyone who thinks you can go through life without a margin for error has not gotten very far in life imo

2019-12-30 22:56:04 UTC  

Yes, crafty. Plus, it's more expensive to put someone on death row in the US than it is to just give them a few hundred years without parole

2019-12-30 22:56:24 UTC  

For the reasons I stated Mikey

2019-12-30 22:57:09 UTC  

The American system is flawed at carrying out the death penalty because they want to be sure and check it 3 times and allow them to appeal in case, etc

2019-12-30 22:57:36 UTC  

plus the bizarre method

2019-12-30 22:57:37 UTC  

Then you have other countries far more successful at it like Saudi for example that can literally carry it out in about a week if they really want too

2019-12-30 22:58:15 UTC  

You’re using Saudi Arabia as a good example for death penalty lmfao

2019-12-30 22:58:21 UTC  

They literally kill journalists

2019-12-30 22:58:26 UTC  

Nah the method America uses is the most humane- mixed barbituates, the issue is the countries that sold them are refusing to do so

2019-12-30 22:58:36 UTC  

So the second most humane is probably hanging tbh

2019-12-30 22:58:51 UTC  

Or shooting, but I think people are averse to that because of the mess

2019-12-30 22:58:54 UTC  

Just shoot someone in the head

2019-12-30 22:59:04 UTC  

But I’d prefer don’t kill anyone

2019-12-30 22:59:11 UTC  

Round only costs 11 pence however, so if anyone tells you its expensive its really not

2019-12-30 22:59:24 UTC  

shooting seems like its probably the least unpleasant

2019-12-30 22:59:50 UTC  

If you’re murdering a murder is that not hypocritical?

2019-12-30 23:00:10 UTC  

no because its not murder

2019-12-30 23:00:14 UTC  

Its a legally sanctioned execution

2019-12-30 23:00:53 UTC  

if we had a uk referendum on it i expect it would win

2019-12-30 23:01:02 UTC  

Course it would

2019-12-30 23:01:02 UTC  

if you are going to have capital punishment and not carry it out for murder what do you use it for lol

2019-12-30 23:01:16 UTC  

I personally wouldn't call the death penalty for murder tbh

2019-12-30 23:01:20 UTC  

It’s not murder because the law says it’s ok?