Message from @Crafty

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2019-12-30 22:55:05 UTC  

I’ll need to find the us death penalty stats I saw

2019-12-30 22:55:14 UTC  

It’s more like 10-20 percent

2019-12-30 22:55:16 UTC  

if it was going to come back it would need to be overhauled and nothing like the US. the method (unnecessarily expensive and inefficient) and death row (15-20 years on average?)

2019-12-30 22:55:23 UTC  

For the same reason vaccinations cant state with 100% certainty that they work, because it is possible that one fails to work etc

2019-12-30 22:55:39 UTC  

But 99.9% is still extremely good odds

2019-12-30 22:56:03 UTC  

Anyone who thinks you can go through life without a margin for error has not gotten very far in life imo

2019-12-30 22:56:04 UTC  

Yes, crafty. Plus, it's more expensive to put someone on death row in the US than it is to just give them a few hundred years without parole

2019-12-30 22:56:24 UTC  

For the reasons I stated Mikey

2019-12-30 22:57:09 UTC  

The American system is flawed at carrying out the death penalty because they want to be sure and check it 3 times and allow them to appeal in case, etc

2019-12-30 22:57:36 UTC  

plus the bizarre method

2019-12-30 22:57:37 UTC  

Then you have other countries far more successful at it like Saudi for example that can literally carry it out in about a week if they really want too

2019-12-30 22:58:15 UTC  

You’re using Saudi Arabia as a good example for death penalty lmfao

2019-12-30 22:58:21 UTC  

They literally kill journalists

2019-12-30 22:58:26 UTC  

Nah the method America uses is the most humane- mixed barbituates, the issue is the countries that sold them are refusing to do so

2019-12-30 22:58:36 UTC  

So the second most humane is probably hanging tbh

2019-12-30 22:58:51 UTC  

Or shooting, but I think people are averse to that because of the mess

2019-12-30 22:58:54 UTC  

Just shoot someone in the head

2019-12-30 22:59:04 UTC  

But I’d prefer don’t kill anyone

2019-12-30 22:59:11 UTC  

Round only costs 11 pence however, so if anyone tells you its expensive its really not

2019-12-30 22:59:24 UTC  

shooting seems like its probably the least unpleasant

2019-12-30 22:59:50 UTC  

If you’re murdering a murder is that not hypocritical?

2019-12-30 23:00:10 UTC  

no because its not murder

2019-12-30 23:00:14 UTC  

Its a legally sanctioned execution

2019-12-30 23:00:53 UTC  

if we had a uk referendum on it i expect it would win

2019-12-30 23:01:02 UTC  

Course it would

2019-12-30 23:01:02 UTC  

if you are going to have capital punishment and not carry it out for murder what do you use it for lol

2019-12-30 23:01:16 UTC  

I personally wouldn't call the death penalty for murder tbh

2019-12-30 23:01:20 UTC  

It’s not murder because the law says it’s ok?

2019-12-30 23:01:21 UTC  

There are crimes far worse

2019-12-30 23:01:27 UTC  

though murder is permanent

2019-12-30 23:01:31 UTC  

i would estimate 60/40 split

2019-12-30 23:01:53 UTC  

My post from earlier;

2019-12-30 23:01:54 UTC  

I think the best solution is: non violent non repeat crimes= rehab, repeat non violent crimes= prison (3 strikes), violent crimes= prison, repeat violent crime= prison to life sentence, crimes designed to cause undue suffering (rape, pedophila, terrorism, torture)= death penalty
Also legalise prostitution, drugs, and gun ownership
I don't want plant smokers in prison, I want violent pricks in prison

2019-12-30 23:02:08 UTC  

You know the holocaust was a legally sanctioned execution

2019-12-30 23:02:15 UTC  

Really

2019-12-30 23:02:19 UTC  

Thats the argument you want to make

2019-12-30 23:02:25 UTC  

Godwins law bois <:PepeLaugh:565528391336329216>

2019-12-30 23:02:43 UTC  

I just mean the state being able to kill people could end badly

2019-12-30 23:03:07 UTC  

Are you implying the UK is fascist or likely to jump up and down on the fascist hill 🤔

2019-12-30 23:03:15 UTC  

Keep in mind we are saying criminals