Why not just give people life instead of killing them

Then there’s no chance of killing innocent people

because its a waste of money

And the pedophiles are still not guilty

Killing people is a waste of money

You are making liars arguments now

What?

Exactly, just work them to death.

you're essentially saying its ok to imprison someone forever, because thats what happens to the same hypothetical 1% edge cases anyway

Slave labour built railways when?

It is not expensive to execute someone at all, what is expensive is the appeals process they go through that most of them end up losing plus the twenty years it normally takes to action their sentence

.. difference being someone imprisoned forever can later be released, and often are.. you can't release a dead man

And the ones who manage to lodge appeals in all but a handful of cases only manage to get it changed from death to life- so its not guilty to innocent

i just think if you have video footage of a guy throwing a grenade at a schoolbus, and in court he says 'yes i threw a grenade at a schoolbus and i'd do it again' - imprisoning him forever seems like a waste of effort

At least there’s more chance of the innocent person to have his case looked at and if he comes out as innocent then at least he can be let out then, if he’s dead you’re kinda fucked

Fucked *

People like you are the problem with the world dude....

Why

Because I don’t agree with you

Would rather break a system over an individual than try to work around it and minimalise it

throwing the baby out with the bath water or some shit

You guys do realise the death penalty doesn't lead straight to death, right? It's not a matter of days before death. It's years of retrials and double, triple checking to make sure they have the right guy.

> Some of you will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

The bottom line is if I threw out odds of 99% to 1% for nearly everyone here you can bet your ass they would take the 99%

Because those are extremely good odds

Yes but there’s still so many cases of innocent people getting killed it’s more then 99%-1%

Now if we can get it 99.9% to 0.1% that is extremely good, but there will always be the possibility that someone innocent gets killed

I’ll need to find the us death penalty stats I saw

It’s more like 10-20 percent

if it was going to come back it would need to be overhauled and nothing like the US. the method (unnecessarily expensive and inefficient) and death row (15-20 years on average?)

For the same reason vaccinations cant state with 100% certainty that they work, because it is possible that one fails to work etc

But 99.9% is still extremely good odds

Anyone who thinks you can go through life without a margin for error has not gotten very far in life imo

Yes, crafty. Plus, it's more expensive to put someone on death row in the US than it is to just give them a few hundred years without parole

For the reasons I stated Mikey

The American system is flawed at carrying out the death penalty because they want to be sure and check it 3 times and allow them to appeal in case, etc

plus the bizarre method

Then you have other countries far more successful at it like Saudi for example that can literally carry it out in about a week if they really want too

You’re using Saudi Arabia as a good example for death penalty lmfao

They literally kill journalists

Nah the method America uses is the most humane- mixed barbituates, the issue is the countries that sold them are refusing to do so