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I’d rather not have freeze peach in a country that’s prosperous and secure than be able to oppose the government in a shithole

Yeah but no

Also why would you want to protect retards like anarchists lol

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Overall safety is step number one on needs, freedom comes afterwards. Once you reach a certain level of safety you start focusing on freedom.

I'd rather live in a society with no laws or authority than one where I don't think for myself

Like it would be so much more fun I'd rather want to die having "fun" than starving to death because the dictators don't care enough about the individual

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@DrRisen Yes

If you’re starving to death how is that putting safety first

You are unsafe if you’re starving to death

Because what if the food is poisoned

That's pretty unsafe

Better not eat food

Let’s put forward an example...

You want to go to a holiday party but you would have to walk through a heavy blizzard with no marked path to get there, and you only have a t-shirt and shorts on. Do you run outside towards the party or do at the very least put a coat on?

I'm not talking specifically about that

In order to achieve total security

So you would be unsafe either way

Starving isn’t safe

But eating food that might be poisoned isn't safe either

So better just kill yourself since you can't eat food nor not eat food

So either way safety isn’t being put first so it’s not a relevant example

@GlobalDelete And this is why people don’t work in absolutes.

Killing yourself isn’t safe though

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@bolivarian_robert Read up

Better just phase out of existence then

Freedom first

I'm talking about the totalitarian vs anarcho-libertarianism argument not safety over freedom

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Alright retards keep it to the topic at hand

Or take this to general

both are equally important

Freedom is a deceptive word. One has duties, not freedoms. Security first, then fulfill your duties

@Bruni what? So there’s no freedoms in your mind. What are the duties one has

Ayy

So, what's this server generally like?

@☥ ρατ ☤ the People have duties to the State and the State has duties to the People. These duties include things like the State protecting the People from enemies foreign and domestic and the People have the duty to purge the State of corruption, however that happens is up to the people that do it, I don't condone or condemn anyone's choices in how they do this